Why you can never trust a Muslim, even if he sounds reasonably sane

The Muslim on the right says 80% of Muslims in Europe are beggars, living off welfare generously provided by non-Muslim taxpayers. He claims what they don’t get from the State, they steal, often from the mosque. And he’s disgusted that Muslim rapists and drug dealers demand halal food from their Western jailers. He condemns the terrorist bombings in London and Madrid and is ashamed that the West so often sees bearded men beheading other bearded men.

But just when you think you’ve encountered a halfway intelligent Muslim, he says this: “I did not come here to denounce Europe and America. I am entirely with you, let’s bring down America, but first let’s stop slaughtering each other, then we can attack America.” 

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31 comments on “Why you can never trust a Muslim, even if he sounds reasonably sane

  1. so when you do not like them why you bobmb us for protecting us from them ?
    why you kill 5000 children of christian children in 1999 in Serbia?

  2. Also before critcizigg the rulings of islam, many of which are quoted incorrectly or out of contect, you could do your selves a favour by understanding its core concepts , then judge the rest of it once you have understood it.

    If we dont give each other a chance to understand each other, then what point does it serve to lash out?

    That kind of intolerance is what hitler had for any but the master race and see what a calamity that was

  3. Also one more thing , I am notehere to justify the actions of people calling them selves muslims and living on state funds when they can work. If that is the case, i agree its not correct and islam doesnt allow for such funds to be used as its tainted.

    But what i am also saying is dont judge islam by the actions of some muslms. Judge muslims by what Islam is i.e. the Quran and the Sunnah (teachings) of the Prophet (peace be upon him)

    @tedjusant Taqwaa is to be aware of Alllah and God concious of allah as he deserves to. by extension it also means to speak a good word about others. And please do not propogate lies about the Quran.

    @Marlene Wilkins You are have misunderstood Shariah Law i am afraid. As for you definition of Islamist, it goes against most of the things you say like rape etc. Slavery exists, yes but not as you know them from enslavement of blacks by whites. its the same word linguistically but has different meaning in.

  4. Migrants have been shown to boost everything from wages and growth to educational achievement and innovation.Government statistics, show foreign-born people are less than half as likely to claim benefits as those born here (while paying the same taxes, of course).

    Seven million Brits are unable to read and write. It is practicaly imposible for them to work for the economic, social and emotional prosperity of the British society. Because of this, British society would bleed to death without migration. Immigrants are the life blood of the British society.

    I see no reason why immigration and tolerance for other cultures is a threat to the welfare state. Immigrants keep some of our most important public services running and will likely be required even more so in the decades ahead in order to care for European’s ageing population. There are certainly legitimate concerns among the trade union movement about social dumping bringing down wages but that could quite easily be solved by tightening labour regulations and making sure all workers have the same pay and working conditions regardless of where they come from. I think the main threat is the EU (together with global financial institutions like the IMF). Why not challenge economic globalisation and the powerful corporate interests it serves instead of putting the blame on migrants from the third world who are either fleeing persecution or simply looking for a better life for themselves and their families?

    Most anti-immigrant sentiment is clouded by emotion and instinctive dislike of the unknown, rather than based on facts and logic.

    Why don’t we conduct the debate based on HARD EVIDENCE rather than on emotions?

    Let’s listen to the employers: http://www.newstatesman.com/bl
    “Migrants are viewed in a positive light by London employers across a number of indicators, with 68 per cent saying they often work harder than their UK counterparts. Similarly, 72 per cent of companies say that migrants are prepared to do the jobs that British citizens won’t.”

    lso, “the majority of London businesses (56 per cent) think the economic benefits they bring to the capital outweigh the potential cost of providing such services.”
    IA

    • So many, many absolute and PATENT LIES from one of the worst trolls hounding this Website!!!!

      I know that calling for your banishment could make Ms. BNI think that perhaps that’s what I merit; however, if anybody in my honest opinion deserves it, it’s YOU!!!! You’ve been spamming us with your taqiyya and kitman all over the place both yesterday and today (not to mention in previous times)!!!

      The statistics you put don’t apply with you Moslems, who come to the West to suck up our resources and money as you think that you’re entitled to live off our bounties because we as “infidels” owe homage to you automatically-”superior” Moslems because of what that ANTICHRIST Mohammed said!!! We know too well that the unemployment rate of Moslems in the West is perhaps as high as 80%…

      Behold, the day shall come when ALL those “jizya”-equivalents will CEASE for you and your fellow-leeches and you’ll be forced to go back to your 57 Moslem countries – or KILLED unless YOU convert and blaspheme Islam and everything it stands for!!! [How I wish that number of "Moslem countries" - 57 - would be cut by ¾ so that you'd only have the Arabian Peninsula, with its sands and steppes, in which to live and practise your monstrously-EVIL ideology that you have the gall to call a "religion"!!!!]

      • Dear Ms. BNI, unlike dogs (whose stomachs ARE sensitive against any change of food!!), we humans need a certain amount of variety. [I just happened to be going through some of our previous postings (notably thanks to that Moslem "Zeus"'s drivel), and now I think (maybe erroneously) that Iftikhar Ahmad's too boring after such a long spell...:-)]

    • Alright.
      Explain what’s happening in Sweden and UK then, two examples of many that blow aircraft-carrier sized holes in your argument.

      facts, not PolCorr book-cooking like your statement of;
      ” “the majority of London businesses (56 per cent) think the economic benefits they bring to the capital outweigh the potential cost of providing such services.” ”

      I KNOW statistical cooking when I see and hear it, I used to work for Ipsos-Reid, and the genuine Economic Indicators for Sweden and UK are crash-diving because of the insane wlfare demand by muslim immigrants.
      newstatesm.com is a hard-core, case-hardened Leftist PolCorr shill incapable of speaking the facts objectively if you put a blade to the necks.

    • iftikhar, due tonthe doctrin of lies in islam, and the ridiculously Leftist/Apologist sources you cite, all you’ve done is further damage your credibility.
      If there was any truth in what you say, then Sweden, Spain, UK and other nations would be booming economically–and instead the anuual welfare drain, and increasing, in the UK alone is over 18 Billion Pound/annually and growing.
      Most, if not all of the muslim immigrants are criminals and angage in criminal acts such as welfare fraud, rape gangs and other abhorrent deviancies.
      They riot and tantrum at the slightest little perceived slight, displaying a total lack of self-discipline and dignity.
      Also, if the benefits of muslim immigration were so great–then why are Brits leaving England is such vast numbers??

      If what you said were at all true, NO one would be leaving Britain and it’s economy would be doing extremely well–instead of faltering.

      THOSE are the Facts.

      • If Islam is everything you say it is, why are 20000 americans converting to islam annually?
        i understand that the media is promoting anti islamic themed propoganda but surely you should use your judgement to read the quran for your selves , tranlated and then perhaps clarify your doubts with some scholar in islam
        I have no doubt there might be bad people out there that are so called muslims but shouldnt we all be more open minded than to judge the entire community by the few we consider black sheep?
        Check out the quran translation here.
        To do above to other religions like this forum is doing to Islam is is to judge all catholics as pedophiles becuase quite a few catholic priests are notorious for it

        Check the quran translation out

        http://www.dar-us-salam.com/TheNobleQuran/index.html

  5. After 9/11, muslims in our countries said America deserved it; when you talk to muslims they say they hate America, even though they may live in America or live in a country which is one of her allies. Muslims can’t help but state their hatred for America, and this is why is should be very easy for the sane few to see that you can’t trust a muslim. All the rest are just too damn stupid for words.

  6. the comment about 80% of europeen muslims on wellfare is called economic jihad.
    Look at europe’s finance’s, almost bankrupt..

  7. Mozzies see no contradiction because things come in twos in Islam. Jihad and hegira (attack and retreat) are normative Islam and an essential of the faith (usul ud-deen). This means Mozzies can have two faces: peaceful Islam and jihad. Peaceful Islam always prepares for jihad. “We smile at some people while our hearts despise them.” -hadith

  8. catch these criminals and deport them from every civilised society if you want to save it…….or its slow suicide till the barbarians overwhelm you.

    This needs men women with guts of steel and smarts to do it without being overtly provocative.

    Look at saudi , they do not give citizen ship rights to anyone and do not toleraet
    other religions….every other country should reciprocrate the same way to save themselves.

  9. This is why, aside from my Muslim friends, I trust nothing muslims say.
    Let me be clear, if a muslim told me the sky was blue–I’d look out the window and check it for myself.
    muslim = liar.

    • Muslims are only practicing their religion when they lie to infidels as its given in qoran.

      They are expected to lie till they get opportunity to slit the throats of infidels who do not submit to their rotten religion….. or do not satisfy what they demand including their right to rape infidel woman.

      • I and others here know that, but thank you for the useful reminder. :-)
        With all that’s so horrid about islam, it’s all-too-easy to lose sight of facts like the ones you mentioned.
        I tip my hat to you in Thanks. :-)
        Their ‘right’ to rape women ends with their ‘equipment’ being torn off by hand.
        Their ‘right’ to rape women is nothing more than hardcore proof of how bilious and excremental islam really is.

    • @Marlene,
      I do not want to take your freinds away , but ALL muslims pray to the same god and abide by HIS wishes , They are not allowed to make freinds with infidels ( the likes of you me and others on these sites ) only in the course of JIHAD, and the word TAQIYYA, comes from the quran meaning, TO LIE AND DECIEVE THE INFIDELS IN ORSER TO DOMINATE THE WORLD, which means if you do not wear that black bag you WILL be stoned to death. I do not want to frighten you but sometimes people have to be frightened in order to save them against EVIL. Slowly move away from those that are of the quran.

      • I’m familiar with the points you make, and please don’t worry–I do understand the nature of the risk in associating with those of islam, whatever ‘brand’ it may be.
        I do appreciate your concern, but please do not stress yourself and thus harm yourself in worry…stress can do damage to health.

        I can only assess them by their actions, and how they have treated me and others, our city. Sometimes, fear must be put aside for the better Human qualities such as compassion and appreciation of those who have never harmed you. I don’t defend them because they’re muslim–but because they are, in evidence of how they’ve always conducted themselves, very decent people.
        They voted against the adoption of shariah here, and voted for it to be legislatively Banned under Human Rights laws. Actually, Grandfather was the one who gave the best insight to Council, along with others as to why shariah was NOT and can never be accepted in any place that holds to proper Human Rights, and why no amount of shariah can be allowed as it’s invasive. He’s been working with islam for decades, and thus has a lot of insight into how evil it is, and made that clear to Council.
        Even knowing it might have made his own work illegal, the whole family voted to Outlaw islam here also. Grandfather was given an exemption because when experts looked through his work–well, it ain’t yo daddy’s jihadesque islam, and he was very happy that his work was seen as being so different from normal islam.
        I cannot in conscience throw my friendship with these people away when they have never given any reason to treat them as a threat…I won’t let blind fear rule me anymore than I’ll submit to shariah, I cannot, otherwise it’s an islamist victory over me and I’ll never allow that.

        I don’t fear islam and islamists, I do make the choice to very deliberately hate islam and islamists. I make an exception for my friends, because I have reason to–but as for islam and islamists, I hate it and them with a totality for their ways of destruction, murder, rape, slavery and every insanely foul act and atrocity they perpetuate.

  10. The Camel is right . Take his word lots of his family been killed by those bearded perverts. You can say every perversion in the world its practice by Arabs It’s not going to change because they don’t talk about it only cover it up. I like the vid from our troops with night vision lens were the Arab farmer went out and had sex with his jack-ass. Question who was more of a ass in the vid.

    • what a load of bullship racist wanks you all will go to hell and i will watch you burn also piece and love bitches thats what islam teaches although am not a crazy ass typical bombing white men muslim it would give me piece if all youse were bombed cause it’l be without you’s but am not like that cause piece and love is what islam jingle bombs jingle bombs jimgle bomb the white men

      • BEGONE, truly-racist MOSLEM DEVIL!!!!

        In fact, Moslems are some of the worst racists around on this unhappy planet: they still keep SLAVES in Saudi Arabia and other Moslem countries; they CONDONE SLAVERY (even if sometimes behind the scenes!!) because that’s what the Qu’rân tells them to do!!!

        Moslems hate anything and anybody really GOOD: women, “infidels”, animals (both ‘halal’ AND ‘haram’), art, music, science and even Western medicine!!!!

        If you can HATE US whites in spite of all we’ve done for the whole world (notwithstanding our sins – for ALL men are guilty thereof!!!), we know then that you’re RABID DEVILS and DEMONS who have positively GOT TO BE ISOLATED from us!!!!

        DEATH TO ISLAM!!!!!

      • You are a do gooder and if you are not with us as in what is True, Honourable and Just then you are against us! You are like them a piece of dogshit!

      • Not sure that I can understand your drivel. You are white and a muzzie and… completely iliterate, like the rest of “your” religion.

        Zeus? Great muzzie name!

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