MICHIGANISTAN: God bless the Pastor who banned the Islamic Call to Prayer from a Church Veterans Day concert so as not to offend veterans

FEEL GOOD STORY OF THE DAY! Traverse City Choral director Jeffrey ‘dhimmi’ Cobb told his singers and orchestra that a pastor had barred an Islamic prayer from the piece they planned to sing. Their concert was to be performed the next day, on Veterans Day, at the First Congregational Church.

Record Eagle  Pastor David Walls and other church officials wanted nothing to do with the Islamic Call to Prayers portion of the performance. They did not want to offend their congregation and military veterans they planned to honor that day, church leaders said.

A shock wave rippled through the choir during their tune-up at the church, and no one took the jolt harder than Alya Nadji, 16, a Muslim and member of the Traverse City West High School Chorale. Alya tried to keep singing, but couldn’t compose herself. (Oh, Boo Hoo!) She ran to the bathroom sobbing. She sent a text message to her parents and asked them what she should do. They decided she should leave the rehearsal. “I felt like I wasn’t being treated equal … I felt that I was unwelcome and that I didn’t belong any place near there,” said Alya, a junior, who wears a head scarf in the Islamic tradition. (Just like Jews and Christians feel in every Muslim country on earth?)

The story began in early October when Cobb and Sally Lewis, First Congregational’s music minister, selected the piece and invited an Islamic prayer leader from Grand Rapids to recite the Call to Prayers. The performance of “The Armed Man: A Mass for Peace” is sung atop a video that depicts graphic war scenes and ends with different faiths drawn together in peace.

The church’s decision to ban the prayer sparked protest by choir and community members. Northwestern Michigan College officials held an impromptu meeting hours before Sunday’s concert and said the college would withdraw as an official supporter of the Larimer event.

Walls, First Congregational’s senior minister, said he and other church leaders rejected the prayer because they did not want to offend audience members.

Church leaders made the decision to censor the prayer three weeks ago. Cobb opposed the move and said he previously hinted to the choir the prayer might be cut. He delayed the final announcement to stem controversy and because he held out hope the church would relent, or at least agree to offer an explanation to the audience, he said. 

Church officials stood firm. That Sunday, with hundreds in the audience, the video showed Muslims bowing to Allah, but with no accompanying prayer, only silence. 

Walls, First Congregational’s senior minister, said he and other church leaders rejected the prayer because they did not want to offend audience members. “We were concerned that there was potential that some of our active military personnel, military families with sons or daughters in Iraq, who have even lost their lives there, would find it much too hard to handle,” he said.

“A prayer in Arabic, addressed to Allah, with references to Muhammad for an event that was intended to honor veterans,” Walls said. Doug Bishop, vice president of the church council and an NMC board member, agreed with Walls and does not consider the decision a form of intolerance.

“From a Christian viewpoint, a Christian’s acceptance of other people’s rights have nothing to do with requiring their views to be espoused from your pulpit,” he said.

Bishop, a Vietnam war veteran, said he would have been offended at having to observe the prayer. “Given the realities of what’s going on in the world and then to have it start out with a Muslim Call to Prayer,” he said. “We are clearly a Christian church and we don’t apologize for that. We have the right to control our content.”


56 comments on “MICHIGANISTAN: God bless the Pastor who banned the Islamic Call to Prayer from a Church Veterans Day concert so as not to offend veterans

    • No, “Thomas”, we are ALL extremely serious here!!!! Some of us have even had run-ins with both Communists AND Moslems, even also Nazis and Fascists – or know people very well who have so been victimised!!!

      If you think we’re a joke, PLEASE go first to http://www.thereligionofpeace.com to learn about Islam, its modus operandi, beliefs, goals, hatred and everything else – and THEN, if and when you come back here, you’ll hopefully understand.

      [One such man who initially thought that Islamoloathing was a joke or worse was Eric Allen Bell – until he met an Egyptian (Coptic) Christian taxi-driver!!! The change that prompted in him (a 180° turn!!) has been such as to even put his life in mortal danger (not to mention making him quite unpopular with leftists like yourself)…]

        • Have you visited the Website I recommended to you, eh????

          Or are you a totalitarianism-lover who’s either a Moslem or a Communist (even both, like Obama!!!)??

        • Thomas…here’s some Didja-Know? Facts for you about islam…
          muslims used to temper their newly forged swords by sheathing them in the bodies of people–often Pagans, because we’re seen as lesser than any other non-muslims that islam dspises.

          Before battles, they’d do the same thing, heating the blades in fires, and quench-tempering them in captive Pagans, men, women, and children as a pre-battle ritual and a way of furthering the eternal persecution of my people.

          islam and muslims have killed over 100 Million people in Pakistan.

          islam and muslims burnt and utterly destroyed the Library of Alexandria.

          That’s the tip of a bloody immense iceberg of islam’s atrocities that continue to this day.
          Like the call for legalizing Female Circumcision in Egypt right now and the Ethnic Cleansing of Hindus in Pakistan right now.

          And yes, muslims were VERY fond of burning Pagans and Witches. They were doing so long before Christianity started to persecute us.
          But Christians STOPPED and even now (despite the fact that us Pagans have said ‘the-past-is-the-past’) Christians still feel twinges of guilt about that, even though today’s Christians are by and large decent, peaceful people and bear no burden in our eyes for such actions in the past generations.
          islam and muslims…they’re STILL doing their best to perscute us, hunt us and kill us. And the way muslims kill Pagans is stomach-turning.

    • Thomas,
      Look around for a second, take off the PolCorr issue blindfold and LOOK for YOURSELF.
      Then…come back and ask us if we’re serious.

      Try to learn something about what’s happening to the world you live in, that your children will be trying to grow up in.

  1. A clue for the dhimmis: Adhan involves repetitions of the shehada which declares Allah’s monopoly and Moe’s, hasten to prayer and come to success. For the Fajr prayer, they add “Prayer is better than sleep.”.

    No god but Allah!! Allah is no god, Allah is an impotent idol, a cunt shaped stone plastered into one corner of the Kaaba in a silver frame.

    Does Jesus Christ demand the execution of apostates? Allah does. Does Jesus Christ require his disciples to engage in conquest? Allah does. Did YHWH arbitrarily and capriciously create people “for the fire”? Allah did.

    Allah and Sin are two names for the Arab’s moon deity. Do we want Sin celebrated in our churches?

    Does our God have as his final messenger an unrepentant murderer, lecher, pederast & pirate? Do we want that damned name praised in our churches?

    “Come to prayer”: Every time they pray, they recite al-Fatiha twice, in the seventh verse reminding Allah why he wants to burn us. Do we want that celebrated in our churches?

    “Come to success.”: Got a Godblessed clue what that means? You soon will.

    9:20. Those who believed (in the Oneness of Allâh – Islâmic Monotheism) and emigrated and strove hard and fought in Allâh’s Cause with their wealth and their lives are far higher in degree with Allâh. They are the successful.

    Those who waged war on Jews & Christians are the successful. God damn!

    9:111. Verily, Allâh has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties; for the price that theirs shall be the Paradise. They fight in Allâh’s Cause, so they kill (others) and are killed. It is a promise in truth which is binding on Him in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) and the Qur’ân. And who is truer to his covenant than Allâh? Then rejoice in the bargain which you have concluded. That is the supreme success .

    Selling your soul to Satan, killing in his name in offensive warfare: that is the supreme success. God damn!!

    4:72. There is certainly among you he who would linger behind (from fighting in Allâh’s Cause). If a misfortune befalls you, he says, “Indeed Allâh has favoured me in that I was not present among them.”

    4:73. But if a bounty (victory and booty) comes to you from Allâh, he would surely say – as if there had never been ties of affection between you and him – “Oh! I wish I had been with them; then I would have achieved a great success ( a good share of booty).”

    Now do you comprehend what the Adhan means? Do you join me in cursing Islam? Would you join me in walking out of any church that would allow that shit in its sanctuary?

    Peace is a good thing, I prefer it to war. But peace is not to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery. There is nothing peaceful about passivity when attacked, refusing to retaliate. I will not be a part of any church that preaches such shit.

  2. TORQUEMADA ,Would you like this slags address?what would the penalty be for a muslim bitch to even being allowed in a christian church?i think an exorcism would be in order then an AUTO DE FE just sayin.

      • *Vapid giggle* “check me out! I’m SOOOOO totally muslim now! Daddy’s SOOOO pissed! But I’m SOOOOO like totally committed-like, totally to uh…Allahmony, or like whoever! It’s my TOTAL true faith, y’know?!” *vapid giggle*

        If I ever, EVER have a daughter like the empty-headed walking-reproductive-system in the article above…I’ll drown her myself to safeguard the Human genepool’s quality.

  3. They can sing their call to pray in a Christian church when Christians can sing the Battle Hymn Republic in one of their Mosques!

  4. Someone should notify the local mosque telling them that Alya Nadji is more than welcome to sing her heart out in the Christian choir at our Christian church. Since she is obviously taking steps to leave Islam, and join in the life and music of Chistianity.

  5. Not that I’m Christian, but I certainly know Christian Scriptures:

    2 Corinthians 6:15-16
    New International Version (NIV)
    15 What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? 16 What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God.

    Ephesians 6:12
    For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

    Matthew 4:10
    Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.'”

    For Christians who believe in the Divinity of Christ, it is incomprehensible that anything to do with pisslam could even be considered.
    Pisslam denies the Divinity of Jesus, that he was the Son of God or Messiah & he was not put to death on a cross – basically, they acknowledge he existed, was a prophet & that is all – they are in fact the anti-Christ.
    How any so-called Christian Church could even contemplate sharing a pulpit with a clearly anti-Christian anti-Jewish death cult is beyond me!

    The ancient nation of Israel was punished many times for falling into idolatry – bowing down before idols, clearly forgetting the 1st commandment.
    Thus sets the precedent. The Lord of Hosts demands pure worship.
    So no other deity can be called upon in God’s house – that means allah the moon god or any other deity.

    Judaism & Christianity has always been a Spiritual Warfare, although of course has become carnal in many instances.

    • Excellent comment! Any church that allows prayer to the Death god should tremble in fear of the Holy One. If they don’t tremble in fear now, they will on the Day of Judgment.

  6. I cannot for the life of me figure out what the hell these church ministers are thinking using a muslim call to prayer for veterans service dayare they nuts or what? i would not only be offended I would probably drag the sob ministers out of there by the neck and anyone who did not like it would be picking their teeth up off the ground stupid stupid stupid!

  7. God bless the pastor, indeed. For many people Islamic prayer instantly reminds them of terrible suffering. Why should anyone have to suffer emotional pain by listening to Islamic prayer?

    • In the Quran and Islamic teaching, Islam’s god calls for atrocities and the mass genocides of non-Muslim innocents. How is it possible that the death god would be honored in any church or other place of worship by allowing prayer to the death god? This is a HUGE SIN against the Holy One – our Glorious Awesome, Wonderful Creator.

      It is also an act of terrible treason against all non-Muslims that many millions of Quran-obedient Muslims have been imported into our countries.

  8. Muslim student: ”I felt like I wasn’t being treated equal …

    Muslims are taught takiyya with their mother’s milk. Under Islamic sharia law, intensely hated non-Muslims have NO HUMAN RIGHTS and live in daily fear in Muslim countries.

    Barbaric mass murderer and HUGE slave trader, founder of Islam, Mohammad, declared: WAR IS DECEPTION.

  9. What in the world? They removed it so as not to offend veterans?
    I don’t feel this to be a feel-good story at all.
    That there was going to be a “Muslim call to prayer” in a so-called Christian church in the first place is disgusting. The church has problems worse than offending any veterans’ feelings.

  10. BNI, an update on Allen West’s race in Florida. It’s looking like there was HUGE voter fraud there. A small precinct with only seven registered voters had… 900 BALLOTS CAST!

    They’re hoping the governor will jump in and invalidate the race. Also, the hacker group, Anonymous, claim to have hacked Romney’s get-out-the-vote software to sabotage it on election day. DemoRAT fraud never ends!

  11. Since that call to prayer contains material offensive to Christians and Jews one wonders at the idiot who placed it in there in the first place. It is not just that it has no place in a Christian Church, because of what it demands it has no place in this country. You can be an American or a Muslim, but there is no way that you can honestly be both – and all of the problem is on the side of the Islamic perversions of human rights and responsibilities.

  12. Wow, a mainline Protestant congregation that actually refused to sell out to the multi-culti whores and islamist crybabies! As a veteran, I applaud and salute those who pulled the plug on this shameful act of submission to evil and dhimmitude. In this day and age, that took much courage. The dual oppression of Westerners by the left and their islamic partners must be broken once and for all. We must destroy their diabolical plans and incidents of forceably shoving their views down our throats whilst silencing our tongues.

    Enough is enough!

  13. What is the muslim doing in a church in the first place? Its up to her to be respectful of others beliefs and if she can’t do that, she shouldn’t be there.

  14. Not offending veterans is a correct stance but the real issue is why in the world would a Christian church invite Satan into their midst?

  15. It would have been the ultimate insult. WWII veterans fought Hitler’s army, That same Hitler that was partnered with the Grand mufti of Jerusalem. Had they accepted that, they could also have played the nazi theme song.

  16. KWho is that’Music Minister’ who made the decision to include call to prayer from murdering,wife beating, baby raping,rape victim stoning, little boy and farm animal molesting, inbred, female mutilating muslims in ANY kind of church service. Fire his ass immediately and send his multicultural butt to live with the ragheadw until he finds out just how savage and uncivilized they are.

    It seems there is always one holier than thou jerk trying to make themselves feel warm and fuzzy, and spiritually above everyone else by including these 7th century throwbacks into civilized ceremonies in order to be fully inclusive and fully Pee Cee. Get rid of thier posturing asses before they infect some impressionable young person with their misguided self elevation.
    Lord, but this disturbs me. Can you tell ?

    • BRAVISSIMO, “SweetOlBob”: I wish I had thought of that idea myself, and LONG AGO!!!!

      You’re entirely right: that “music minister” deserves summary and PUBLIC termination of his job such that he’ll NEVER AGAIN be employed by any truly God-Fearing church or synagogue!!! [Of course, enough apostate false-“Christian” and false-“Jewish” places will gladly have him, alas…]

      Also, to Pavelina: well done for leaving EL’c’A / EL’c’IC!!!! They are just as much FALSE “Christians” as anybody else (notably E’c’USA / A’c’ in C; P’c’USA / P’c’C; U’c’C {BOTH the American “United Church in Christ” AND the Canadian “United Church of Canada”}!!)!!!!

      • While I’m at it, I should mention that all too MANY of these “music ministers” are BIG “liberals” – quite leftist and enough of the time Communist sympathisers. It’s wretches like they who’ve been foisting all sorts of GARBAGE upon the poor ears of those relatively few who still come wanting to truly worship Our Heavenly Father – definitely they (plus the EVIL anti-theology of all too many “theological ministers”) are responsible for at least this particular individual’s preferring to stay alone instead of going to church!!!!

        They definitely are as far removed from the genuine people who sought to bring people to God the Father (Yahweh) and/or Christ as far can be: they most certainly, both musically and theologically are worse than unfit to lick the soles of the shoes of Johann Sebastian Bach, Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina, Tomás Luis de Victoria, Felix Mendelssohn-Bartholdy or ANYBODY ELSE of the truly God-Fearing and Loving greats of music!!!!

        • That wretch of a “music minister” is Sally Lewis, so it’s a lady who deserves to be fired…

          Furthermore, I would think MULTIPLE times about performing absolutely anything written nowadays – and the very title “A Mass For Peace” is a dead give-away for me of something that in all likelihood is patently UNSUITABLE!!!

  17. Several years ago a Muslim imam was invited to lead part of worship during an ecumenical observance. He was the only clergy who spoke a foreign language to lead part of our service, and it was creepy. We had no idea what he was intoning!
    How broad-minded and inclusive are we expected to be? It was
    too much for me, and I left that ELCA-affiliated Lutheran church
    not long after. I now attend a Missouri Synod church, which is traditional, not left-wing like ELCA.

  18. Tell the little muzzie that if she wants a real lesson in cultural sensitivity to walk across Tahrir Square wearing shorts, a tank top, and a crucifix.

  19. Oh boohoo. Rather then leaving the rehearsal, why not leave the country you fuxxing scumbags. Enough of this kissing Muslim ass. Its a church not a mosque. When is the last time a christian hymn was sung inside a mosque.

  20. I don’t want Muslims to be treated equally in the West. I want the West to be to Islam what Saudi Arabia is to all religions other than Islam.

  21. What is there to say on this post but “GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER WELLS! PREACH ON!!” And continue standing against the evil that the muslimes and their dhimmi dips CALL a “religion of peace”?! And AMEN!!

    • EXCELLENT!!! Bravo to the Pastor who preferred not to offend genuine American Veterans and other American people as opposed to just one Moslem choristress who then decided to drop out of the choir!!!

      [As to the Moslemah: her ideology forbids her and her fellow-adherents from making any music whatsoever!!! She was being a SHAMEFUL HYPOCRITE!!!! Good riddance to her (especially with her hijab)!!! Blessed will be the day when every last single Moslem man, woman and child leaves the West!!!…]

      • Alas, yours truly forgot to mention that if any group deserves to be discriminated against in the West, given their extreme HATRED for the West in addition to everything and everybody “un-Islamic” (FAR past the point of wishing their utter EXTINCTION!!!!), It’s MOSLEMS!!!!

        Ah, how I wish that somebody had told that Moslemah that that’s what her kind do without so much as even taking a new breath where they rule!!! She got to taste something of what it feels like for Assyrian, Coptic, Chaldæan, Pakistani and other Christian groups – in addition to Pakistani and Afghani Hindus, Buddhists and others EVERY MINUTE, even second, under the rule of “dar al-Islam”!!!

        • 10 minutes alone with that snivvelling little whinging disgrace, that’s all I want.
          No physical violence, don’t need it.
          Just one question that I wouldn’t let her wiggle away from;
          “How does a ‘religion of peace’ justify killing those who decide to leave it peacably?”

          Make no mistake, I’m just itching to slap that whiney, snot-nosed muffarette right across her face. I wouldn’t, but it sure wouldn’t hurt her by way of a ‘cognizance reboot’. 😉

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