SIKH vs MUSLIM HEADGEAR: Understand the differences

Sikh headgear.jpg1Many people mistake Sikhs for Muslims due to their turbans, which often makes Sikhs targets of attacks meant for Muslims. Please study the differences in Sikh (right) and Muslim headgear below. You might be able to save a Sikh’s life one day.

If you see a man walking down the street wearing a turban, there is 99.9% chance that he is a Sikh, a follower of a monotheistic religion that started in the 15th century in India. Sikhs proudly wear the turban as part of their religious and cultural heritage. Sikhs are often mistaken for Muslims or Arabs. They are neither. Sikhism is an independent religion and is in no way related to Islam.


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turban_sikhSIKH MEN commonly wear a peaked turban that serves partly to cover their long hair, which is never cut out of respect for God’s creation. Devout Sikhs also do not cut their beards, so many Sikh men comb out their facial hair and then twist and tuck it up into their turbans along with the hair from their heads. Sikhism originated in northern India and Pakistan in the 15th century and is one of the youngest of the world’s monotheistic religions. There are an estimated 18 million Sikhs in the world, with some 2 million spread throughout North America, Western Europe and the former British colonies.

turban_muslimMUSLIM RELIGIOUS ELDERS, like this man from Yemen, often wear a turban wrapped around a cap known in Arabic as a kalansuwa. These caps can be spherical or conical, colorful or solid white, and their styles vary widely from region to region. Likewise, the color of the turban wrapped around the kalansuwa varies. White is thought by some Muslims to be the holiest turban color, based on legends that the prophet Mohammed wore a white turban. Green, held to be the color of paradise, is also favored by some. Not all Muslims wear turbans. In fact, few wear them in the West, and in major cosmopolitan centers around the Muslim world, turbans are seen by some as passé.

turban_afghanAFGHAN MUSLIM MEN wear a variety of turbans, and even within the Taliban, the strict Islamic government that controls much of the country, there are differences in the way men cover their heads. This Taliban member, for example, is wearing a very long turban — perhaps two twined together — with one end hanging loose over his shoulder. The Taliban ambassador to Afghanistan, on the other hand, favors a solid black turban tied above his forehead. And some men in Afghanistan do not wear turbans at all, but rather a distinctive Afghan hat.

turban_iranIRANIAN MULLAHS wear black or white turbans wrapped in the flat, circular style shown in this image of Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. The word turban is thought to have originated among Persians living in the area now known as Iran, who called the headgear a dulband.

ARAB MUSLIM KAFFIYEH is not technically a turban. It is really a rectangular turban_arafatpiece of cloth, folded diagonally and then draped over the head — not wound like a turban. Yasser Arafat, the Palestinian leader, has made the kaffiyeh famous in recent times. However, the kaffiyeh is not solely Palestinian. Men in Jordan, Saudi Arabia and the Arab Persian Gulf states wear kaffiyehs in colors and styles that are particular to their region. Jordanians, for example, wear a red and white kaffiyeh, while Palestinians wear a black and white one. And a man from Saudi Arabia would likely drape his kaffiyeh differently than a man from Jordan. The black cord that holds the kaffiyeh on one’s head is called an ekal.

turban_nigerDESERT PEOPLES & MUSLIM TERRORISTS have long used the turban to keep sand out of their faces, as this man from Africa is likely doing. Members of nomadic tribes have also used turbans to disguise themselves. And sometimes, the color of a person’s turban can be used to identify his tribal affiliation from a distance across the dunes. This man’s turban is a very light blue. In some parts of North Africa, blue is thought to be a good color to wear in the desert because of its association with cool water.


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  1. And there’s always got to be in undereducated thug savage calling people crackers LOL LMAO ha ha Ha ha ha The funny thing is I don’t know anybody that that irritates

  2. Just worked on the air-conditioner of an obvious Muslim elder and I totally agree with the idea if you don’t want trouble or attention brought to yourself why dress like the dirt bags while in the United States? it takes a lot of balls IMO.


  4. Ask India and Indians that Sikhs are terrorists. They have killed many Indians, so I am shocked by this conversation. Don’t trust these people, they are working with ISIS in Canada. They killed Indra Gandhi, the Sikh guys who were suppose to protect her, killed her (trators). They have done this throughout history.

    • Nice try Patel, but no one is more rotten than a skinny, scrawny, dried up hindu with a stupid bollywood moustache thinking he is a real man, when he is just a little rotten stick boy. When you immigrate to the West, it’s you Hindu’s that are the first to pretend to be white, and delusionally convince yourself white people like you. You are pathetic and obviously uneducated on every level. Sikhs in Canada are successful, educated and living well. Hindu’s in India are wishing the British would come back and enslave them. Isn’t that why you are so obessed with have white skin?! haha.

      • I am a aHindu from India.
        Dude – Its so stupid of u.
        That Patel guy is obviously not a Hindu.
        What you just did is that u got instigated by a muzzie and have abused ur fellow countrymen – who would treat you like a brother… Think about it.

    • I am a Hindu – from India.
      What ur saying is all false.
      And – I can see through your disguise. U r NOT a Hindu.
      That’s for sure.

    • In my experience, Sikhs are NOT violent people. In fact my understanding is that Sikhism is an anti-violence, pacifist religion. When some time ago, some moron attacked a group of Sikhs at one of their Temples, confusing them for Muslims, I was appalled both at his ignorance and that Sikhs are the last people whom I would ever expect to read about committing some violent act.

  5. Shannon if you feel that way then tell them to stop blowing people up in the name of god, killing those who leave the religion, declaring Jihad, teaching that slavery of non Muslims is ok, and making death threats and burning effigies when people criticize their religion or draw Muhammed. See this is what you politically correct liberal people don’t understand, problems don’t just magically disappear just because you ignore them and sweep them under the rug. No, you need to take action with people like this otherwise nothing will happen, no progress will be made. Do you think what you’ve said here and your ignorance on the issue has made Islamic radicals change their mind and not carry out countless terrorist attacks? No, instead we constantly turn on the news to find out about a fanatic who took the lives of innocent people all because people and authorities like you are so timid and terrified of offending other people that you can no longer call a spade a spade.

  6. My wife and I visited India in 2009. We became friends with a Hindu fellow. When I asked him about Islam in India, he hesitantly said. I am afraid of Muslims. He has no problems with the Sikh and advised us to go and visit their temple. We have been welcomed with a genuine love, invited to eat with them. The huge hall accommodated any one who wants to share a meal with them. Such a nice atmosphere which is un-islamic by nature.

  7. Hi,
    I think you might want to rethink this article cuz many muslims in America don’t wear traditional wear unless they are going to mosques. I think u should say if you see a guy with headgear next to a woman without the hijab they are of the sikh religion. Many hate crimes have been committed against innocent sikhs because they were mistaken for muslims.

  8. God dresses us at our birth.

    When in Rome, one does as the Romans do.

    When staying on in a Western country, beyond being a tourist, please dress appropriately to its own cultural standards as a mark of respect for the community that has allowed you to stay. Beyond tastefully sized symbols on jewelry or a tee shirt or such, please do not make yourself special or show off your sectarian religious allegiances in the street unless you are clergy. muslims are in a league by themselves, but walking around in turbans and other non-Western customs visually pollutes and Balkanizes the social landscape here and is just as lamentable and rude in that respect as a hijab. Kippas and orthodox dress can be like that. It’s a bit like showing off, too.

    And that means that the wearer continues to be a tourist in terms of being a Western person. And to someone who was born and grew up in a European Western society (as I did and I have lived both as native and immigrant in two such Western nations) it is an insult to the host people to blur their social dominion with your foreign bric-a-brac. Sure, I have ethnic and national pride, but when we enter another’s house we owe it to our host people and to ourselves as immigrants to mute that stuff.

    • I disagree with everything you’ve said. The hope-my hope is that there will come a time when the hijab, prayer cap, turban, fundamentalist dress, long hair, Mennonite caps and so on will be invisible to us…the diversity will be so rich and so deep that it will just become a beautiful part of our nations scenery.

    • Wow. Like I really want my house guests to take off their clothes and dress like me when they visit. And what about differences in how westerners present themselves based on their religions? Who gets to pick what is appropriate? (Some protestants find the catholic dying-Jesus-on-a-cross offensive)… so who gets to pick? … and when I visit a Native American reservation, should I dress like them? … that would either a muse or insult more than one person I am sure. … sounds like you had some bad experiences in your travels. Being respectful of another culture is one thing. But being afraid of wearing your hat and bracelet … especially in a land of so-called religious freedom… for fear of offending? Wow.

      Please don’t feel the need to dress like me when you visit! I’m quite okay with everyone being as comfortable in their clothes as I am.

  9. You have done a great job here by distinguishing between Muslims and Sikhs.

    Sikhs are the most courageous people – they had saved major portion of India from Muslim invasion for a very long time. Infact, Sikh gurus sacrificed their lives saving Hindus from Muslims. Till date, they are the back-bone of Indian army.

    Unlike mussies, sikhs are quite outgoing and party animals. (even the ladies).

    Personally, I have never seen a sikh girl covering her hair in public, except for in a private sikh religious ceremony.

    You have done a great job here, coz all non-muslims – Sikhs, Hindus, Bddhits, Christians, Jews, all of them – need to unite. For that, you should know that all turban-wearing people are not muslims.

    I would really really appreciate if you could write an article on how to identify a white-skinned muslim as well. Coz – islam is not a race. And I see it a lot of time that a white-muslim gets away while a brown-hindu faces the brunt. All your preaching will be of no use if you (white majority of America) cannot differentiate between us and them and target a muslim-hating Hindu, thinking that he ‘might’ be a muslim, while a ‘real’ muslim gets away just coz he is white.

    Again, thank you for this article.

  10. Someone Way Back in the comments referred to all the wonders and acievments by civilizations in the ancient mideast as evidence of Muslim inspiration when in fact the glories that were the persian empire were when Iran/Iraq was Zoroastrian (Parsi in India) long before islam “converted” the region at sword point-one can debate in hindsight whether or not such lofty achievements could have happened under an Islamic value system; and its sad that I have to fear for my life bysayingso.

        • That’s up for debate, both regions had very ancient, pre-Noah civilizations. There is also a ancient writing system that we have not quite put together yet, but some folks can still translate it. Parts of which are found world wide. Notably scribed on the pyramid shaped artifact found In South America (Bolivia or Peru) There were a few kings of old that boasted that they could read the writtings from before the flood, scribed on stone. Would be cool to get the whole language referenced, along with the Linear A type writtings in India translated in full …what history might be revealed?

        • The word Copt (Gypt or quipt) and Egyptian are identical, and both are derivatives from the Greek word “Aigyptos”. The Copts have been described as the direct descendents of the ancient Egyptians and are considered by Anthoropologists as one of the purist races.

          The Coptic language is the last development of the ancient Egyptian language “Hieoglyphic” which was written in pictographic form. The Coptic language, namely, the pharaonic speech written in the Greek alphabets with the addition of 7 letters for sounds which do not exist in Greek, but existed in the Egyptian, was the official used by the Egyptians even during the Greco-Roman period. But when the Ptolenaic Dynasty started to rule Egypt after the invasion of Alexander the Great in 332 B.C., Greek was used as the official language. Until the invasion of the Arabs in the 7th century A.D. (642 A.D.). About the 17 century A.D. the Coptic language was discontinued, even as the spoken language of Egypt.
          One of the Khalifas (Muslim rulers) issued a law to cut the tongue of any Christian who speaks Coptic. Muslims used the word Coptic for the Orthodox Christians of Egypt.
          The Coptic language is still used in the Churches in Egypt and all over the World and among some Copts.

    • Neva, yes and the Islamic golden age was really just Arabs learning and expanding on things they acquired from other cultures. Romans, Greeks, Chinese, Persians, and Indians but nothing original during their golden era came from Arab Muslims.

  11. another difference is that muslims are allowed to marry their cousins while sikhs are not.
    sikhs have fought many wars with muslim rulers in northern india.
    5th guru of the sikh faith was executed by muslim king
    sikh religion was started by guru nanak who was born into a Hindu family in india.
    some historian believe that sikhs are the only ones to conquer afghanistan when maharaja ranjit singh ruled northern india

    • No one in would not allow or trust in unit . I am an American and stand with tradition . Let the go into the Iranian army. Not here. Am glad my time is over and my father is in his grave. What a shame you people put on our American values and traditions.

      • Rsy, are you really an American? Born Americans speak English. Naturalized Americans have to pass English competency tests. Your statement looks translated by a machine.

    • Why ‘deport them all’? It is the Sikhs who, responding to Muslim aggression (e.g. forced conversions from Hinduism to Islam) saved Indian civilzation from the Moghuls. Please get educated.

        • I believe Hermes Liberty meant that the Sikhs saved India from becoming 100% islamist like how the fucks did to Persia and the the rest of the islamist nations. The Sikhs were formed as a fighting force, and the initial membership was drawn from Hindu families who had to volunteer a male child for the cause, to be brought up as a Sikh with martial values and training. But for their resistance, India might as well have become one of the basket cases of muslim invasion, perhaps like the terrorist nation of pakistan.

  12. Sounds like this post is saying it’s okay to attack a Muslim man and not a Sikh man. Face palm. Can we just stop attacking people. Irrespective of religion.

      • Wow your worthless dog of a mother clearly didn’t raise you well.
        Hopefully you get attacked in the streets.

      • Amen to that,
        i have long since stopped wasting my brake pads if a Muslim is crossing the road in front of me….

        Ria……Sunshine, enjoy the fun while it lasts, when the Brits finally ‘spit the dummy out’ you and yours will be in a shit-storm you would not believe.
        The joke is you, as your just banking on the fact the Brits/ Kuffars won’t act, eh? The British Empire was the most powerful and barbaric empire seen on this planet, the only reason you have not been wiped-out is that people have their hands tied by silly Eu laws, one day however, the Brits will say ‘screw this’ and then its ‘game on’.
        Keep playing silly basterds and the when the gloves come and they will, all bets will be off.
        One thing i mention is having served in Iraq, nothing was better than watching one of your ‘fighters’ piss their pants crying like puffs when bleeding out, after being shot….PRICELESS.

        • RjBingham… I have no idea who you are but I love everything you just said. I am a Scottish descendant from Canada, you Brits forced my ancestors out and overseas and at the time it was probably pretty shitty but 200 years later look what has been created 🙂 What you said it bang on and we are all just waiting on the edge of our seat for the go-ahead to rise. There is Viking blood running through every Scotsman, Englishman and Irishman. We are ready to take on the scum called Muslim and send them all to hell where they belong.

    • Sikhs don’t go about flying planes into buildings or beheading people in the street and attack people while shouting allah snackbar!!

      • There’s absolutely no truth to prove that the attacks on 911 2001 were perpetrated by Muslims
        But there is evidence that other governments and that the CIA were the masterminds behind that terrible day

        So I guess it was OK for President Bush to go into Iraq and destroy the Iraq.
        And then the US government had to admit that they did not find “weapons of mass distraction ”
        And for your information Iran & Iraq are one of the two oldest civilizations in the world and also the birthplace of art science finance & commerize
        Please to civilizations go back almost to the dawn of time and are even older than before Christ was born .
        With that being said I would highly suggest that you my friend get an education read some books check your facts before opening your nasty horrible racist uneducated prejudicial stupid moronic baboon Buffalo buffoon nincompoop mouth

        It’s People like you that make the world a terrible place

        • You must be joking. Their schematics were discovered at some of their residences. They were each seen on video boarding the planes. The evidence was overwhelming !!

        • Excuse me? There is proof that radical islamists took control of the flights of 9/11 as recorded on flight recorders in each jet used that horrible day…looks like you wound your turban just a bit too tight..get your facts right and stop race baiting.

        • As for weapons of mass destruction not found…another fact that you botched…check this out…hundreds of barrles of chemicals used in genocide… Mobile labs for mixing those chemicals and scud missiles were found by US MILITARY. Put them together and what do we have?
          Certainly not shampoo for fluffy little Bunnies or ridding your puppy of its fleas… Again…get you facts right huh? You look more stupid with every mouthful you spew forth

        • Excuse me? No WMD’s in Iraq?! That will be such a comfort to my friends, two of whom suffered from exposure to degraded Sarin nerve gas (and NOT listed amongst the weapons slated for destruction in Saddam’s disclosures to the UN) at Muthanna State Establishment. Those weapons were hidden and hurt my friends in defiance of international law. Look it up, and then whiz off.

        • Iraq most definitely had wmds. I know people who were in the middle east in the months leading up to the invasion. There was a constant convoy of trucks going to Syria from Iraq

        • Ayesha…..You’re named after Mohammed’s 6 year old bride Aisha. How does it feel to know you are named after a child that was raped by your prophet? Kinda creepy don’t ya think? If you say you are proud then you just add more proof to the case for how disgusting and sick Islam is.

        • Remember before 9-11 there was a Saudi airliner that had onboard a Mossad team, that crashed into the sea? Cause of crash was only speculated at..nothing proven. tried to blame the pilet, who was fighting with the controls. Maybe this was a dry run to test out the remote control flying of an airliner…and getting rid of people in the know for extra insurance?

        • Ayesha Why do you Muslims always blame your problems on others? Why do you people act like just because someone else does something bad that somehow that makes it ok for you to do it? Why do you act like the US and Israel are the source for all your problems while conveniently ignoring the fact that tribal violence and hostilities between Muslims has long predated the existence of those two nations? It’s not impossible that 9/11 and Isis may have been an inside job by the CIA but you don’t have any proof. Was it the US government’s fault when they supplied and trained the Mujahideen to fight communism only to have them form into the Taliban and turn on the US prior to 9/11 without any reason? Was it the government’s fault that Qadaffi was killing off Libyans and the US and and NATO sent in fighter jets to help them defeat Qaddafi? Was it the US’s fault that Basar Al Assad has been killing off Syrians now since 2011? Was it the US’s fault that Muslim Somalia has been with a functioning government for over 20 years? Is it the US governments fault for all the terrorist attacks carried out by Muslims in Europe right now? No, you see you have a clear slant because you are a Muslim, it hurts you to face reality so you’d rather deflect to make yourself feel better. Muslims aren’t a race so you can’t claim racism, sorry. If Muslims don’t like being criticized then they need to stop being childish by making death threats and burning effigies just because someone has a different opinion than you, stop preaching hate, stop blowing up buildings and killing people in the name of God, stop teaching that enslavement of non Muslims is ok, stop killing and persecuting those who leave the religion, and stop enforcing their views on people who aren’t Muslim such as declaring Sharia law in non Muslim countries. It’s their own fault, they have no one to blame but themselves because when they’re hot headed and teach hate what comes around goes around.

  13. This really needs to put before people as many times as needed. Sikhs are not Islamic, Not in anyway Muslim, and sadly far too many people treat them as such.

    Thanks for the posting. First time I ever saw this done, and very strongly needed.

      • Tell me about it. Me too. And it’s neither helping the cause or doing justice. We all have much to learn about the terrorist history of Islam in India.

        • Lol that’s hilarious. White Europeans have caused terrorism across the world with their colonization and slavery but it’s ok if they do it. Didn’t they also control India at one point?

          • Ria all that’s hilarious is your ignorance on the matter and your irrelevant deflection. Here’s the problem with your comparison, unlike Islamic terrorism European colonialism and slavery is in the PAST. Did you know the Arab slave trade of black Africans began many centuries before the European one and is still occurring today in Mauritania, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, and other Arab countries? They castrate all the men by cutting of their genitals and the women are all used as sex slaves. So next time you make a statement use educated information instead of living in the past you dinosaur!

      • Hanging on to hair and making it a major part of your life affects your interactions with non-sikhs. It just attracts the wrong type of attention, just the same way Muslims & Jews get picked on for not eating pork, and muslims get picked on for wearing veils. In these times, not wearing a turban (and beard) in a western country might save your life.

        And sikh men asking for exemptions to be let into the military with turbans is similar to muslim women wearing veils during job interviews in western countries. It just only shows how inflexible and superstious you are, and how you are trying to change regulations to suit you. After all, helmets are better than turbans and hair during a war. Life is more precious than hair, beards and turbans.

    • the muslim religion is evil enough said it can not co exist with american values so either they need to conforn to our values and live as an american or leave i will not say we should kill them but you better believe if you think your ganna come here and change us to you you have another thing coming go back to your own country if you want to practice an evil idioligy. this is america baby home of the brave and we protect our own !

    • How many metric tons of yellowcake did Canada receive via cargo ship from Iraq after we finished cleaning up ? MNM didn’t cover that story too much. It’s amazing how the first 2 days our soldiers were marching up the banks of the river they were reporting the levels of mustard gas in the water. It was believed it was being dumped up west of Baghdad into the Euphrates, if my memory serves me correctly, They extrapolated to the best of their ability and determined there were massive amounts which had been dumped.

      • It were british secret service agents or saboteurs disguised as iraqi army men who set fires to some 800 plus oilwells in Iraq during 1990/91 war by the west against the country.

  14. Sure they’re not Muslims but Sikhs tend to be incompatible with Western societies too. For example misogynist-like, most like to hide the women away for prearranged union (likely as not back in India)–this is basic bigotry and racism–demand bizarre, barbaric concessions of their host country and are more concerned with supporting the ‘golden’ temple than democratic constitutions. They voluntarily segregate, muslim like, for generations. Some not quite saving graces–they don’t have a hate on for the rest of us–but many of us are still sikh of it all and wish they’d stay in India.

    • People like you really need to educate themselves before you leave an ignorant comment. 🌏🗺 May God forgive your ignorance and hateful heart.

    • As long as they don’t believe that killing non-believers is a guaranteed fast track right into the Gardens of Heaven and 72 virgins IDGAF. Then again my standards for tolerance has always been low.

    • I have new neighbors fresh off the boat from India. They have been trying to confiscate as much public land around their house as they possibly can for their own use … tax-free. They’re loud and disturb the neighborhood’s peace with their shouting communication into the night. They’re unfriendly are disrespectful of the native born citizens of their host country. They’re generally unpleasant people who hide in their own hives. If they don’t intend to assimilate they should get back on the boat and go back to India.

      • There is a difference between anecdotes and broad based statistical evidence. If you randomly pick a Muslim and a Hindu off the street, you might get a very tolerant, kind-hearted, decent Muslim and a total a**hat of a Hindu. Because good and bad people exist in every group. However, if you look at statistics you get a more broad picture.

        If you look at the UK, where, thanks to India being a former colony, they have a large minority population from the sub-continent, you will find that most groups (Hindus, Sikhs, Parsis, Christians, Buddhists) from India have assimilated reasonably well. They are less likely to commit crimes and more likely to be employed than the native British. But if you look at the Muslims – they are more likely to be criminals and less likely to be employed. Statistically, Muslims are a bad bet if you want an immigrant group that is a net positive to your country.

        This does not mean, however, that individual Muslims might not be nice people and individuals of other groups (Christians, Hindus, Jews, etc.) might not be horrible.

        The other issue unique to Muslims is jihad. If you make fun of a Hindu’s religion, he or she might get angry and call you names but chances are they will not pull out a knife and stab you. When Mel Gibson’s Passion came out, it offended Jews, but that didn’t result in his death. When South Park or other shows slander Christians or Jesus, that upsets Christians but they don’t blow themselves up on set. Muslims however are so fragile that the slightest criticism triggers their murderous impulses. that makes them a problem.

      • This behavior is typical Islamic. I know. I lived with them for over 25 years. Islam is a contagious disease, which destroys the brain cells.

    • SweetSuzzie……I’m wondering how much of the Chemical weapons origionally stored in Iraq were those shipped to them under the Reagan Adm, to combat and counter Iran during the Iraq/ Iran war when Iran was using Chemical weapons against Iraq. Illegal yes, but it was done, and some American troops reported finding US Markings on chemical stores they destroyed. Bombing of same helped contaminate the environment, and the initial chemical detectors on vehicles were constantly going off. By war’s end though… all had indeed been destroyed, shipped out to elsewhere, or otherwise gotten rid of… at least that we know of. That anthrax vaccine may have interacted with the chemical environment as well as high dosages of Deet… France ‘s army didn’t have a problem with gulf war disease…they didn’t take the Anthrax vaccines.

  15. I went to India 3 times. The last one, I made friendship with a sikh tuk-tuk driver. Really nice guy; he showed me New Delhi around and all the most important landmarks. Although he explained lots of stuff about the sikh culture, he didn’t bash me with arrogance, tried to convert me or had any superiority complex. I even left some of my valuables with him in the tuk-tuk and he came back later to pick me up with everything. In a country with so much poverty and corruption that striked me really deep in the heart.
    In India they have no problems whatsoever with Hindus and are fully integrated into Indian society.
    Most important difference here in this post: If you see a peaceful Sikh trying to kill someone, that someone is probably a religion of peace fanboy/fangirl who pissed him/her off.

  16. Ran a little test on the lovely Sikhi at the local 7/11. The women were still wearing the tight black head wrap scarf. I’d seen one of the women elect not to wear it. Went in one night, & mentioned to the Sikhi behind the counter how good it was to see the woman w/out the head wrap as you know we (Aussies) find it ‘like demon’. Next thing I notice, they’ve all removed all veils, & never put them on again. Also mentioned that it was great to see women working there (before it was all blokes only). Now they have plenty of women attendents, except late at night. One of the reasons I did that was I’d noticed the Sikhi women giving me forlorn type looks – that indicated they wanted the same freedoms as western women. The men have also mentioned that they really respect me, & my opinions. I was also helping them as they were getting mistreated by somewhat illiterate Aussies out here, being mistaken for mozlems.
    Moz are so obviously nasty as I get treated as special by Hindus, Sikhi, & I can’t say enough kind words about SE Asians. Also non moz Africans. They all know about mozlems. They’re no fools. They are however fearful of speaking out against mozlems. I expect they know how dangerous they are, & are also concerned about losing favour w/ the left, or being percieved as trouble making immigrants.
    I used to think Sufis were ok, & true some have the best intentions, but I’ve witnessed some of the dark arts they cannot ultimately resist. I’m very concerned about the increase in Sufism as it means more ruddy ‘sorcery’, to get their own way. Most people in any faith are pretty ordinary at it. What makes Islamonazism so dangerous is its actually a government, that utilizes black arts & blood sacrifice as a means to an end at all costs. This belies a weakness of character.
    If you look at the nazi top dogs they were very big on occultism for the very same reasons.

  17. In the King James Bible there are nine verses that have mitre in them.
    Exodus 28:4 And these are the garments which they shall make; a breastplate, and an ephod, and a robe, and a broidered coat, a mitre, and a girdle: and they shall make holy garments for Aaron thy brother, and his sons, that he may minister unto me in the priest’s office.
    Exodus 28:37 And thou shalt put it on a blue lace, that it may be upon the mitre; upon the forefront of the mitre it shall be.
    Exodus 28:39 And thou shalt embroider the coat of fine linen, and thou shalt make the mitre of fine linen, and thou shalt make the girdle of needlework.
    Exodus 29:6 And thou shalt put the mitre upon his head, and put the holy crown upon the mitre.
    Exodus 39:28 And a mitre of fine linen, and goodly bonnets of fine linen, and linen breeches of fine twined linen,
    Exodus 39:31 And they tied unto it a lace of blue, to fasten it on high upon the mitre; as the LORD commanded Moses.
    Leviticus 8:9 And he put the mitre upon his head; also upon the mitre, even upon his forefront, did he put the golden plate, the holy crown; as the LORD commanded Moses.

    Leviticus 16:4 He shall put on the holy linen coat, and he shall have the linen breeches upon his flesh, and shall be girded with a linen girdle, and with the linen mitre shall he be attired: these are holy garments; therefore shall he wash his flesh in water, and so put them on.

    Zechariah 3:5 And I said, Let them set a fair mitre upon his head. So they set a fair mitre upon his head, and clothed him with garments. And the angel of the LORD stood by.

    Nearly all the modern translations change mitre to turban. What do you think about that?

    • we do no live by old testament law anymore because of Jesus. in 1 corinthians chapter 11, God goes to a great deal of trouble to use the apostle paul to explain that men who pray or prophesy with their heads covered are actually dishonoring their head, who is Jesus Christ, the king of kings. so the mitre or turban of the old testament is now done away with by the covering provided by the person of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ and his shed blood.

        • I know for certain the KJV so states as that is about half of the entire chapter. Uncovered heads for men and covered heads for women. It appears that long hair counts.
          11 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

          2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.

          3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

          4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.

          5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

          6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

          7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.

          8 For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.

          9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

          10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.

          11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.

          12 For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.

          13 Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?

          14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

          15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.

      • Covering for women is only commanded when they pray or read the Bible. It is not commanded outside that anywhere and it says if the woman has long hair she does not need a covering as her long hair is her covering, so really covering in the physical sense is only for short hair women and only when they pray or read the Bible.

      • I believe that was for the High Priest to prevent him from being electrocuted by the Arc when he entered near it.

  18. As far as I know, there have been only two documented cases of hate attacks on Sikh men by people who had them confused with Muslims…one shortly after 9/11, and the one attack in a temple that was more recent. Obviously those are two attacks too many, and I wouldn’t support them if they had been against Muslims either, but it hardly seems there is an epidemic of random hate-fueled attacks against Sikhs OR Muslims in the U.S.

  19. Anyone who had been around Sikhs a lot couldn’t possibly mistake one for a Muslim. For one thing, they are Indian and thus usually considerably darker-skinned than most Middle Eastern Muslims. I’ve also noticed that Sikh men tend to be quite tall and robust, more so than other South Asian and Middle Eastern men. It’s not for nothing that they have always been known as fearsome warriors. Sikhs have certainly had their own issues with religious extremism and intolerance, as well as terrorism (the worst act of Canadian terrorism ever was committed by Sikh extremists), but I’d still take them over Muslims any day. And historically, they hate Muslims.

    • Kathleen, it’s hard for people to tell the difference between Sikh turbans and certain Muslim headrags. Some I’ve seen on Paki Muslims look very similar to turbans.

    • Darker than most Middle Easterners true. For the most part true, but some Indians are fair skinned. Basically without the traditional dress they look the same as other Indians. However, your statement I think illustrates a misconception in the West, probably more so in America because it’s more geographically removed.

      I was arguing with a friend about Muslim influence in India, and he had to step in to school me on my ignorance lol…”India isn’t even Muslim dude…it’s Hindu jeez”.

      The only thing he was right about is that it is a Hindu majority country. 150 million Muslim population is not insignificant…remember the British citizen that want shariah law everywhere? Indian…not even from a Muslim family either…in the interview it says he converted from Hinduism. India is 3rd on the list for countries with highest Muslim population. 2nd on the list? Pakistan with around 170 million. They used to be part of India. To me they have very similar physical features.

  20. Kindly refer my earlier post. The Sikh community is exemplary in warfare and are an example of great warriors. I will send you the link of their remarkable and legendary heriosm that may cloud even the Spartans!
    In the battle of SARAGARHI, 21 Sikhs battled with 12000 Muslims, killed 600+ of them before dying a hero’s death. Refer Wikipedia

  21. Many westerners are confused Sikhs with Muslims. Sikhs are a sect separated from Hinduism to defend India against Muslim rule and atrocities. The best way to beat this confusion is to put bindi or kumkum( sacred vermilion) atleast lightly on the forehead. We Sikhs and Hindus visit each other places of worship now and then.

    • As a woman with blonde hair, blue eyes and fair skin who has visited India, Jordan and Egypt at different times, I can assure you there is a big difference. Indian men respect women. The others don’t even respect themselves.

  22. In case you haven’t noticed some male and female muslims young and old seem to be wearing turbans that resemble Sikh turbans that show an apex at the forehead. This is a bit unnerving as it blurs the lines between the uninformed publics visual distinction between two faiths that are different in terms of beliefs and practices.

  23. It is unfortunate that sikhs are being mistaken for muslims. Sikhs are opposite of muslims. They are peace-loving community that adapts, integrates and assimilates fast.They are very industrious. They don’t believe in hand-outs and arehardworking…heard its difficult to find beggars among them. Compare that with muslims who assert their rights to leech on welfare system. We feel proud of their achievements. They help people in need and that too without fb posts about their generousity. They feed anyone in their gurudwaras, only one rule applies don’t waste food. They don’t kill or harm anyone in the name of religion. I am a indian, christian by birth agnost by beilef.

  24. As a formally ignorant Sikh observer and co-inhabitant, this blog has added value to my civilized humanity. Impressed enough to save the link for self-survival and Common Sense.
    Thank you for raising the bar of this life form.

  25. Im really happy to see this post.
    I live in Punjab,India and let me tell you Sikhism is one of the purest religions you will ever experience.
    Millions of pilgrims irrespective of color gender caste creed are fed in Gurudwaras(sikh temples)all over the world.
    Maximum respect for women,people of all religion.
    Im not a sikh but i really want to work for upliftment of their true identity in western countries.

  26. Wow! I am surprised I missed this one all these days! What an informative post! Every time a muslim does something violent, usually a Sikh always gets some retribution from our Public School Educated brethren. While the despicable CAIR cries Islamophobia and tries to garner sympathy from any muslim terrorist attack on innocent civilians, Sikhs, who truly get attacked, have to bear with the repercussions. Heck, even after 9/11, the only people truly affected by the backlash were the hundreds of Sikhs who were mistaken for muslims and attacked, and (I believe) Bill Maher who was fired for his ‘insensitive’ remarks! It is important to know one’s enemies, and attacks on Sikhs are the equivalent of friendly fire, and one should learn from our past mistakes!

      • BNI: Me too! I wish that there is someway that this could rise to the top each time there is any kind of muslim vermin attack! I do wish that our public schools, instead of indoctrinating our children and desensitizing them towards a vile cult like islam, would teach them to differentiate between muslims and Sikhs! I believe the Sikh faith was formed as a means of resistance to muslim atrocities during moghul rule in India. Every Hindu family was expected to contribute one male child for the cause, and thus from the pacifist Hindu faith was raised a martial race called the Sikhs! It is so very sad that we are unwittingly ‘helping’ muslims when we end up harming Sikhs after each muslim atrocity!

  27. After the attacks of 9-11 there were so many attacks on Sikhs because of their turbine. It has always been distinctive and not like the Muslim turbines. So why so many attacks on Sikhs? Are Americans just stupid?

  28. Sikhism came about as a reaction to the horrible persecution of non-muslims by the Muslim rulers of medieval India. The Sikhs are required to keep long hair, wear a bangle like women for as long as Muslims ruled Delhi. This was to remind them of their effeminate status and to motivate them to get rid of the scum.

    • STFU you illiterate shit stirrer …Sikhs wear a kara to represent the neverending nature of God and its presence reminds the Sikh to use his or her hands for doing the right thing.

  29. Sikhism is a monotheistic cum polytheistic religion. Guru Nanak took positive things from both ideologies to create a ideal way of life. Hindu gods are mentioned in Guru Granth Sahib (Sikh holy book) along with Sufi couplets.

    In end times kalki (10th incarnation of lord Vishnu) is mentioned along with Mahdi. When lord kalki becomes egoistic & Mahdi slays him. when Mahdi also goes astray he is slain by lord Vishnu (kalki) by a deadly insect.

    Jump to kalki & Mahdi in Sikhism.
    Anyway sikhism was a movement derived from Hinduism to counter invasions in Punjab

    • Not this again…
      Sikhism is not polytheistic in any way. Panentheistic is a better description, but monotheistic is simpler. Yes, hindu gods are mentioned but as another invokation of capital-G God (Allah is also mentioned, btw, so it’s not just Hindu gods). The scriptures are poetry, not journalism, so metaphors and shades of meaning are frequent.
      Anyway, the point is that no one religion has the only path to God, many contain the seeds of the basic truth, but as happens in all religions, humans screw things up and the focus of the religion is lost over time.
      Also, you’re right, the founder of Sikhism was born into a Hindu family. But the Gurus instituted important theological and practical differences during their time that their intent to create something separate was apparent.

  30. No offence to Sikh friends. One of my American friends dub Sikh men ” towel-heads “. Her explanation is that a Sikh man looks like a woman with towel wrapped around her head after having taken a shower. LoL!!!

    • A friend of mine also has a joke about Muslims. What do you call a Muslim with Ham on his head? Answer Hamed.. What do you call a Muslim with even more Ham on his head? Mohammed! What do you call a Muslim with more Ham on his head with a vibrator up his ass? Sheikh Mohammed!! LOL Like you no offence after all it’s only a joke!

      • What do you call a man who has a spade for a head? Doug. What do you can a man who doesn’t have a spade for a head? Douglas.

        Yes, the muslim part in your joke is redundant. Though I suppose you did that for affect ‘no offence after all it’s only a joke!’.

    • this is extremely disrespectful, your friend just reduced the spiritual significance and practice of faith down to a joke. they might not be a follower of that religion but don’t demean people for practicing thier faith. You should talk to your friend about respect for the significance people place on thier actions

  31. I am an Indian Hindu and would like to thank BNI for this post. Sikhs are gem of a people and they superbly assimilate in any country’s style of living through their natural ability to work hard, serve humanity and share wealth with poors. On a contrary Muslims and their crime rates has been matter of shame for Indians and their own community all over the world. UK journalism has owed their respect to Sikh’s contribution over the years for selfless work and perfect examples of good immigrants. Its disheartening to see hate crimes against Sikhs who are mistaken as muslims by some perverted morons.

    If you are reading this please do not get yourself confused between Sikhs and Muslims. They are like two opposite poles of humanity. Former being a perfect example of true humanity, selfless service to the needy and liberalisim while latter being exactly what BNI posts here.

    • ‘Gem of a people’ might be going to far, seeing the world’s people with rose coloured glasses. Sikhs come in all types – morons and intellectuals, crude people and refined, virtuous and totally self-centered. The difference is that, unlike Islam, their religion absolutely does not teach intolerance. The one broad statement I will risk is to say that Sikhs tend to be practical people.

  32. This post is so dumb, my wife us Sikh and I am muslim we have been married for ten years and too beautiful girls, this is not what any religion is about it’s about respecting others faith, no wonder us Asians are so back words and the world is moving foreword, we don’t stick together this is really sad day for us all.

  33. It’s great that this site is explaining some of the differences with the types of turban styles, yet this site is clearly villainizing muslims or sending out the wrong message. I’m a white guy/not religious and reading this site seems to be sending a message to only stop sikh’s from attacks, yet is making it seem that attacks on Muslims is fine….. Attacks against anyone based on their religious belief or what they wear is a terrible thing.

  34. BareNakedIslam: Please understand that a person like myself who is neither a Sikh or Muslim, can misinterpret things especially since most of us who are caucasian and are brought up in a Western household are really not educated to know the difference. I know that I am just learning the difference because more and more people who wear turbans or head coverings are immigrating to my city and I am curious to know the difference. I am not racist and don’t think all people are bad. Most people who throw their opinions around have not researched what they are talking about. That in itself can make things dangerous as it is out of fear and ignorance that these things happen.

  35. I am not a Muslim I am a Sikh but i respect both religions obviously Sikhi my parents are religious and so am I I pray and do seva at gurudwara But one thing that bothers me is people making fun of my dad and brother cause they both wear turbans but most people are used to it and another big misconception i read somewhere is guru nanak was hindu not muslim he started sikhism but his parents were hindus I love who I am i will never change I hate discrimination against sikhs who people think we are Muslims but no hate against them either we just have different beliefs than them Im only 14 i dont know much yet but i will

  36. Guys I also suggest everyone to read up on the History of SIKHISM. If it wasn’t for the SIKHS, today India would have been ISLAMIZED. SIKHISM was born during the ARAB/ISLAMIC occupation of India and a lot of the SIKH gurus were persecuted by MUSLIMS. They were the ones who fought against ISLAMIC tyrants like Auranzeeb who imposed forced conversion and tax on Hindus which actually worked in converting many Hindus to Muslims. Read up on Guru Gobind Singh. Auranzeeb, the Muslim ruler went against his promise on the Quran that he wouldn’t attack Guru Gobind Singh’s army. Read up on Chatrapati Sivaji ji as well. Till today as a Hindu I will be always grateful to my SIKH brothers for defending the BHARAT/India

    • My friend Mughals ruled 800-1000 years and in fact if you look the history carefully.Its only Aurangzeb who dont have good relations with Guru. MUslim Sufis in India and other emperor always pay respect and don’t have feeling like anti-sikh. If Mughal would have really forced the mass Indian to convert 80 % population is Muslim today.

      Sikhism is like buddhism who dont want follow Hindu caste system,Gods etc and want have own identity. If really Sikhs help Indian Hindus then why need leave Hinduism.. I have many sikh friends and if I say you are a part of Hinduism n Islam they dont agree and they like to have own identity.

      I am here not for insulting and defaing any religion but please read History well from many sources and then take decision.

      • bro,the reason to differenciate from hinduism and start a new religion was to rescue people from the silly superstions,casteism, untouchability, sati system and many other mal practices that were prominent during those times. we believe in one God and also in the fact that if you really love him you only need to remember him ,think about him while doing your worldly chores. their is no need to go to a forest to attain nirvana,you can attain it by remembering god at any place . But still we respect all other religions and its followers ..that’s the reason for protecting Hinduism…….. and moreover it was not only aurangzeb who was cruel to hindus(read about babar’s encounter with guru nanak,Jahangir s encounter with guru arjan who was burnt alive on a stove)

        • Only Naqasbandi wahabi faction of Islam fight with sikhs. Mugal were follow naqasbandi Islam. But sohrabardi, chisti, kadri support sikh guru sehban.

      • You better don’t speak about a thing if you don’t know a shit about it…..Your awareness about Indian history must be a joke.

        The Mughal Era in India starts with the 1st Panipat war in 1526. The Empire went through the hands of mainly six emperors named Babur, Humayun, Akbar, Jahangir, Shah Jahan and Aurangzeb in a continuous manner untill 1707 since it began a free fall untill 1857 when the last mughal emperor Bahadur Shah ( Nominal ) was deported to Burma. Thanks to the emergence of Sikh empire in the north and Maratha Empire in the south dwarfed the Mughal territory to the premises of Delhi. During the mid 18th century the mighty Maratha empire had ashamed the size of Mughal empire once they boasted during its zenith. The Mughals could never establish peace in their territories throughout their history because of their perverted religious principles that too not much different from Islamic ideologies with an exception of the golden years of Akbar.

        You’re wrong to say ” If Mughal would have really forced the mass Indian to convert 80 % population is Muslim today ” . Who told you the Mughals didn’t try ? They tried and they failed… It’s fair to say , their religious violence and fanaticism catalyzed the fall of the empire. The harder they tried to Islamize India ,the faster their empire fell.

        Aurangzeb was not the only Mughal emperor who maintained animosity towards the Sikhs. Guru Arjan was tortured and executed by his grandfather Jahangir in 1606 before Aurangzeb did the same to Guru Tegh Bahadur in the year of 1675 for opposing the forced conversion of Hindu Kashmiri Pandits into Islam by the Mughals.

        The point I started telling that the Mughals ruled India from 1526 to 1707 ( In between that Sher Shah Suri of Suri dynasty defeated mughal emperor Humayun and ruled from 1540-1555 ) and they were struggling for their survival from then until the eventual annihilation in 1857.

        The only thing I agree to that of yours ” I am here not for insulting and defaming any religion but please read History well from many sources and then take decision ”

        Unfortunately Masood Khan has failed in history and I’m generously giving you a chance to test your math. Your time starts …….. Now.

  37. Why do you followers of the charlatan prophet muhammed the filthy (may shit be upon him) always have to tell everybody your tedious and predictable life story, when you decided to flush your brain down the toilet and give credence to the absurdity that is islam..

    Always a atheist, but then goes from believing in no god to believing that the god that created this unlimited universe, where the nearest star is billions of miles away and there are trillions of stars, was giving messages to a sadist, child molesting slave keeping, abuser of humans and animals, in a cave in 7th century Arabia, pull the other one it plays jingle bells..

  38. I’m Muslim and I am sitting here with my friend who is Sikh ( we’ve known each other for a very long time, our parents were friends since before our birth) looking at these comments and shaking our heads. Shame on this website, the real world isn’t like this may God be with all of you.

      • BareNakedIslam *praise and applause* haha…Loved your comment. Crappy Islam, surele need to get rid of it. And Ameerah, get used to it.. 😛

        Sikh, and Proud!

        • GSD, I am really sorry that Sikhs are being mistaken for Muslims. People don’t know the difference in headwear and I think it would be wise for Sikhs to refrain from wearing it in public. Too dangerous.

    • Is not Taquia an amazing thing!!
      Islam is NOT, I repeat NOT, a Religion!
      It is a Cult, based on the rantings and writings of a Rabid, murderous Narcissistic pedophile, who was Jealous of the Popularity of Christianity, and hated the Jews!!
      He plagiarized the Holy Bible, 600 years after the birth of Christ and changed his version to suit his perversion!
      Adolph Hitler did the same thing with his book!
      Mohammed claimed to be a Descendant of Abraham! I can claim to be a Descendant of “Billy the Kid” but that don’t make it true!!
      As Far as the headgear is concerned, Im happy to have the Info;
      Least I wont be Throwing Bacon at the wrong Guys.
      Unlike Moslems, I’m not down with hurting the Innocent:
      and besides, have you seen the price of Bacon these Days??

      • Um, Mr. Hale …

        Islam now represents over a billion people. That’s billion with a “B.” Cults are small with a central charasmatic leader, who is normally alive. Face it; by definition Muslims compose a religion. I don’t like them either. I think they’re a bunch of self-rightious pricks who need to chill out about EVERYTHING. Even having anything to do with a religion that tortures, suppresses, and oppresses women is disgraceful. Islamophobia is a made up word to silence what they consider fringe people like me and a lot of you. Bill Maher is spot on. If Christians were currently acting this way (a la the Crusades), I’d be saying the same thing.

        Bottom line: religion kills.

        Just wanted to add Sikhs are some of the kindest people on the planet. So helpful, courteous, and genuine people who would take their sacred turban off it meant making you feel more comfortable during a crisis as demonstrated here (just one example out of MANY):

        • I do not believe that Muslim is, by definition, a religions regardless of what anyone says. It is a philosophical lifestyle which includes religion, their penal code, their civil code, their banking rules and regulations, their economic rules, their contract laws, their sexual conduct, and their daily social conduct all contained squarely within the walls of one book, the Qur’an accompanied by Hadiths and personal opinions. Their various codes are contained within their Sharia Law which totally conflicts with America’s constitution as well as the constitutions of the 50 states. Bill Maher is NOT “spot on” as you say. Christian Crusades were self defense movements against the Christian/Jewish/Hindu/Buddhist/ Agnostic genocide being conducted globally by the Muslims. The Moors, the Ottoman Empire and now this dysfunctional fragmentation of a caliphate are/were all out to convert or slaughter with some slavery in between. Sorry but if they really are trying to kill you, that’s not Islamophobia !!

        • “Cults are small with a central charasmatic leader”

          False Mr. Atheist. The main reason of the size of Islam is because you are always under the real threat of being murdered if you should even speak a word against their charismatic leader, let alone oppose him or state publicly that you are leaving him. This is the only real reason Islam grew to its numbers and stays that way, because of fear, if you ever went to any true Islamic country you would see how real this is and if you dare show yourself different you will face serious consequences along with your entire family, business and anything else that can be destroyed.

          Also Phobia is not fear, no one except those under the black death living physically inside Islamic countries is afraid of Islam, everyone outside of their power is only disgusted of their vile beliefs, not in fear of them. Disgust is not fear, learn the difference. The only real people in fear of islam are Muslims and those under Muslim control who want to escape but cannot for various reasons.

      • Actually Nathan Hale, (NOT defending Muslims here so don’t get me wrong)

        IF Muhammed was a distant relative to Ishmael, then he IS a descendant of Abraham. Abraham had a son by his wife’s servant, Hagar, who was an Egyptian handmaid of Sarai (Sarah). But Sarai cast her out with her son because God’s promise was to fall on Isaac, the son that Sarai had with Abraham in her old age. God told Abraham to let her go.

        Genesis 16:11
        And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.

        Genesis 16:12
        And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

        Again…the promise was with Isaac NOT Ishmael although the Lord did say…

        “And the angel of the LORD said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude”. Genesis 16:10

        But Mohammed being a descendant of Abraham (if he was) is as far as it goes.

  39. Just a gentle reminder to not put all the people in the same bucket from the first view! In the same way a terrorist of any religion belonging can be disguised in a friendly sich as much as a man of any religion can wear a burka and rob a bank! While being a christian in my own country i remember being attacked by a gang of Indian tourists and almost raped in the street in an European country! That does not make me call all Indians mean and does not make me hate them!
    In Romania, were i was born, there are many Iranians claiming themselves muslims but the true reason is that they would be in jail in their country. They drink, go to women and do everything a muslim shouldn’t do. That does not mean all Iranians are like that, that does not mean all muslims are like that. Probably same kind of mean people have gotten to America as a majority too, due to corruption – with the right money you can get a visa for anywhere!
    A short information is required for wen you met people from other cultures.
    You should know, due to gender separation a muslim of opposite sex than you will not try to kiss cheeks, kiss hands or hug you. He/she may find it very disturbing if you try to do that. Some of them will avoid looking at you specially if you wear “sexy” clothes. And also they may be suspicious because they have been called many times bad names by other people there.
    Friends of same sex can hug and kiss their cheeks, also males. In Romania if 2 males are kissing cheeks you will find people say they are gay, although for women same thing is ok.
    It’s just a culture difference.
    I’ve been christian for 20 years,
    atheist for 3 years
    I am Muslim ever since.
    I am a woman but i don’t wear hijab in Romania, despite my religious belief. I could not wear a hijab were i am too, and surely nothing will happen, but i just wear what everybody else does and mix with the crowd, because i am a human, like any other human and we are all creations of God no matter how we’d call him.
    I have met my Muslim husband while i was almost atheist. He has never tried to talk me into my religious belief and he has always taken care of me wen i was needing, always respected me and treated me equal, proposed to me while being not Muslim and not asked me to chance religion for the marriage.
    I have willingly left Romania to live in Egypt despite the political situation now and for the years i am here with my son and my husband this man that you generalize as a terrorist has been changing diapers, washing dishes by his hand, carrying me in his arms to hospital and watching me and our boy many nights not sleeping wen we wer sick. He has never raised his hand on me and never called me a disrespectful word.

    I’m not here to call anyone anything but to say i don’t like to be judged and called names as i am not judging either.
    May i be the only muslim you know that is friendly? I’ll be happy to talk any time.

    • So you, your husband and your son are all engaged in demographic warfare against the West by bringing more ragheads into the world and by converting others — that’s the only way to explain it!

    • MikystixYour muslim “religion” judges the non-muslim, so how can you really be a muslim then since you say you don’t judge? Mohammed is your prophet, or Allah’s prophet, and you believe what the quran says which encourages violence against the infidels yet you don’t judge ? I believe that you need some deprogramming, and consider being Sikh. Think and study for yourself. It is sad that because of your confused thinking you can be hurtful to the cause of freedom.

      • Your pathetic defense of them is the problem. Sure, let’s keep up the violence against women.

        I swear I hate liberals and I am one. YOU need to chill the hell out.

        • I believe you lashed out at me when you meant to address your post to Mikystix. I have definitely not defended them.

  40. Hi there there’s at least 73 sects in Islam and only 1 of them will enter paradise we are told and that one sect is the sect that follows Muhammad peace be upon hims teaching and how he lived his life, anyone who hasn’t read the biography of our beloved Prophet then please do how they lived their life is completely different how your typical ‘extremist’ is i.e al Qaeda the extremist type of Muslim your talking about is the ‘Salafi, takfiri, Wahhabi’ type which came about with the help of the British empire which are now the corrupt Saudi family and the terrorist organisation that America and the Zionists have made them selves don’t believe me please google search it your self I my self am a Sufi Muslim (brewali) we are known to be people of peace and harmony the same type of people the founder of Sikhism Guru Nanak used to spend his time around just google difference between a Sufi (or brewali) and a wahabi that is if you want to see the ACTUAL Islam but I doubt it because all I will be getting is abuse by the looks of it peace to you all

    • I see nothing peaceful in the mohammedan phenomena. Why was America forced to battle Barbary PIRATES? What was the mohammedan horde doing at the Gates of Vienna? Did mohammed himself not raid caravans? Did he not behead 6-900 Jews of Khaybar, some as young as 12, children, some maybe 70 years old, and enslave and rape the others?

      “Current Sufi orders include Alians, Bektashi Order, Druze, Mevlevi Order, Ba ‘Alawiyya, Chishti, Jerrahi, Naqshbandi, Nimatullahi, Qadiriyyah, Qalandariyya, Sarwari Qadiri, Shadhiliyya, Suhrawardiyya and Uwaisi (Oveyssi).”

      Do you speak for ALL groups and ALL individuals? How about this:

      “Mumtaz Qadri, the self-confessed killer of Salmaan Taseer, is said to be associated with the Dawat-e-Islami, a non-violent, non-political, Sufi-inspired group of the Barelvi school of thought. The Barelvis are mainly pacifists, having little or no militant tendencies, while most jihadists and militant groups, with few exceptions, believe in a more puritanical version of Islam…”

      “So does this mean orthodox Islam is essentially violent and Sufi Islam non-violent? My answer is, ‘no’. Blanket generalisations are wrong in either case. Neither are all orthodox Muslims militants, nor are all Sufis pacifists. Many would disagree with the latter part of my thesis because they believe Sufis are peace-loving, proselytising preachers. But I say, not essentially.”

      “Read history. Sufi sheikhs and dervishes led revivalist movements, fighting foreign rule as well as the ‘tyranny and oppression’ of Muslim rulers.”

      “…all I will be getting is abuse by the looks of it…”

      Is the above abuse or history?

    • If anyone still thinks that the Sufis are good people, then this self-professed Sufi’s calling of America and Israel a “terrorist organization” should open your eyes to their true nature! The Sufis are just as much our enemies (and therefore just as much terrorists) as the Salafis/Wahhabis — the above comment proves it!

      • It is you who needs to understand the toxicity of the hidden agendas of the military and intelligence forces of America and Israel as they are today…..and the hidden alliances that exist to control as much of the worlds population as buy into the deceptions and keep everything boiling in an acid stew designed to keep individuals from knowing their own connection to divinity. Interesting that you have chosen such a toxic name. Are you in fact a troll bringing the acid froth of that stew to the suface…???

        • Lady, blaming on Israel is really low brow and pathetic of you. Unlike ISIS and political Islamic militants, IDF and Israeli army forces are professional and mire humane. YES, even far more so than US forces. I call you pathetic because you actually defend Palestinians who fire and provoke Israelis and yet behind their children when Israelis fire back. Cowardly and pathetic. Just like your bottom of the barrel prophet Muhammad.

          I have no whatsoever respect for hypocrites like you who call out inhumanity on others but never face the truth about your own tyrant prophet who had murdered men, women and children as well as poets and singers for having opposed him or even mocked at him!

          Your diatribe preachiness has zero validity. Go ahead and spew more of that self-righteous crap on others. It only helps to make you come off as that uncool Pharisee.

  41. lol
    Muslims in my area don’t even wear a turban.
    The Women all wear a sari to special occasions, but then that’s just Indian tradition.
    Can’t comment about politics in India/Pakistan but then, that’s politics and not religion.
    As for Muslim’s “stealing” Egypt, I believe it would be closer to the truth to say that Egyptians “stole” the Muslim religion.
    Do the people commenting here realise that Muslims are derived from many nations and that Islam is a religion, not a race?
    And what about the 80% of Muslims of either gender who choose not to wear any sort of headgear?
    As far as I know, this is not even an option for a Sikh. (I’m quite open to being corrected on this though)

    Chances are that anyone who attacks a Sikh knows that he is attacking a Sikh. And let’s be honest, attacking anyone purely because you do not like his/her race, religion, sexual preference or hair colour is just wrong.

    • Attacking muzzies for being muzzies is NOT wrong — the very existence of Islam is a threat to everyone else in the world! Read the Koran, for Heaven’s sake, will ya?

    • No, the comment is correct. Muslims are trying to steal Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood have been outlawed in Egypt. They, just like CAIR and other terrorist groups, are trying to overthrow the government. They have killed scores of Coptics. Yes, I’m fully aware that you believe it is a religion when, in fact, it is much more than that. It is their entire lifestyle including criminal codes, penal codes, philosophical lifestyle which includes religion, their penal code, their civil code, their banking rules and regulations, their economic rules, their contract laws, their sexual conduct, and their daily social conduct all contained squarely within the walls of one book, the Qur’an accompanied by Hadiths and personal opinions. Their various codes are contained within their Sharia Law. Anyone who follows the teachings of Sharia to the letter of their law, are our enemy. It mandates in the least our being kidnapped and at the far extreme, our execution if we refuse to convert to Islam.

      The Reformists are/were not. The Shah of Iran led a country where the women ran around in jeans, shorts and bright colors, became scientists, teachers, etc. The same held true for Afghanistan. Looks for pictures from the 60’s, 70’s, etc. When Ataturk started Turkey, he was a reformist. He told one of his closest friends, “We are going to cleanse the Turkish mind from its Arabic roots”.

      Of the 1.5 billion Muslims in the world, how many are of the violent ilk? Hard to say. Remove from that number the Ahmadiyya (who believe in peaceful propogation of Islam) and the Baha’i (a monotheistic religion which emphasizes the spiritual unity of all humankind emphasizing that all humans are created equal) and we remove about 200 Million. Then we have the Shi’a and Sufi who are also included in the category of Muslim and Islam, whereas the Sunni Muslims say that these are not at all Muslim then we would be reducing the number by yet another 600 Million. Then consider the fact that there is a growing Exodus of Muslims leaving Islam, where the Muslim Leadership is itself concerned about the fact that over the last eight to nine years, there has been millions of Muslims leaving Islam.

  42. Sikhs are great people.
    In the Golden temple they feed hundreds of people every day no matter what colour,creed or faith,plus they have served in our armed forces with destinction for two hundred years or more.

  43. Yes, it is sad when some uneducated American takes a pot shot at men in turbans. Especially after 9-11. Also the more recent incident, the idiot killed quite a few at their temple worship ceremony… Really sad.
    The women’s clothing can be alittle tricky for the casual observer, not to be mistaken for muzzie. What I noticed is that their clothing is of a traditional Sari, and not like Omars tent. With western clothes, the head scarf is worn very loosely, not super tight like muzzies do. AND most importantly, they don’t smell like muzzies!!

    Good citizens, and a great contributors to American society.

  44. No one on the Left really bothers to stick up for minorities and produce articles like these. Instead it’s just obscurantist nonsense that hides the victims out of political convenience.

    You show em BNI!

    • It is very much to the advantage of Leftists that People of Color in general are targeted by idiots. It is very much to the advantage of UAF that Leftists in general are targeted by idiots.
      Do distinguish between the economic Left and the islamophilic Left. “Anti-racism” divides the working class between “oppressed” muslims and “oppressing” non-muslims. We should not allow the working class to be divided!

  45. The land which Pakistan sits on is stolen land………….It was stolen by the Muslims with the connivance of the Brits.

    The previous owners were the Sikhs and Hindus.

    There is NOT one piece of land that Islam now sits on that has not been stolen from someone else at some time. Kosovo, Northern Cyprus, Pakistan, Bangla Desh. Turkey was Anatolian Greece, Istanbul was Constantinople, Egypt belonged to the Copts, Londonistan used to be called London, etc. It’s all Stolen Land, or in the process of being stolen

    • “…with the connivance of the Brits.”

      Can you enlarge on that? If it wasn’t for the sanctification of Gandhi, and what he achieved, India might have been prosperous and successful like Canada and Australia, and more powerful than China.** Not that it’s doing badly at all.

      But that venomous islamist creep with an inferiority complex a mile high – Mohammed Ali Jinna – would never tolerate his precious mohammedan brood living in any kind of partnership where they weren’t the one and only, supreme high boss. So he forced partition, and was thus directly responsible for the deaths of a million total on both sides, and maybe $500 billion damages in today’s values.

      From that sprang three bloody wars and nuclear weapons. And A.O. Khan, Pakistan’s evil thief and nuclear genius, and purveyor of nuclear secrets to despots around the world.

      **Cui bono? Wasn’t it/isn’t it in China’s interest to divide and conquer greater India?

      Sorry, off topic, except toxic islam.

      • When the Brits, forced both by their crushing post-war debt and popular pressure into giving up their colonies ASAP, prepared to leave India, the guy who was assigned to devise the Pakistani frontiers wanted at least a year or more for his task. He was given only one MONTH by his superiors!!! Naturally he couldn’t but make mistakes as to where exactly the borders would be – though bloodshed was inevitable given the rapidly-escalating Hindu-Moslem hatred (which of course the Moslems had and have all along for everybody else!!!). It’s said that it’s a miracle that more fighting and bloodshed didn’t ensue than what did.

        Of course, Kashmir continues to be a sore point between India and Pakistan; and, given the odds especially for the Moslems to jettison all reason (something they’re extremely good it), sooner or later we’re guaranteed to have all-out nuclear war between the two!! When that happens, here’s to the hope that India will win hands-down!!!


          “After arriving in India on 8 July 1947, Radcliffe was given just 5 weeks to decide on a border. He soon met with his college alumnus Mountbatten and travelled to Lahore and Calcutta to meet with commission members, chiefly Nehru from the Congress and Jinnah, president of the Muslim League. He objected to the short time frame, but ALL PARTIES WERE INSISTENT that the line be finished by the 15 August British withdrawal from India.”

  46. Interesting article. My husband and I used to go to a Sikh owned Indian restaurant when we lived in Utah. Since the Indian restaurants here are Muslim owned we have to cook it for ourselves. Right after the 9-11 attacks there was in incident in Sacramento- we were living there at the time- where a man mistaked the Sikh temple for a mosque, crashed through the gate and urinated in a pool of water used for cleansing before worship.

  47. Sometimes it is very easy to tell the difference. The quiet one on his way to work is a Sikh. The one with his head back, his mouth open so wide that you can see light coming in the other end, screaming somehing about an Alley Snackbar,and carrying a sign that says sharia law is the only way is a muslim and probably a spokesman for cair.

    • Thanks SweetOlBob for the laugh of the day, Alley Snackbar, hillarious.
      This article was indeed informative too. Very much appreciated I must say.

      • Brenda – can’t you see that SweetOIBob is a racist hatemonger? There is nothing funny about his comment, and resembles the sort of language anti-semetic Nazis used about Jews. People are turning into hatemongering racists and merging good and bad people under one banner to spread their racist messages. Shameful!

        • You’re also ignoring the insane and inhumane treatment of women in these Muslim countries, Mary. I’m as liberal as they come, but human rights trump some dumb religion any day. Stop defending their crap. If I were still Muslim after all that’s gone on, I’d reconsider my involvement in it (as I would with anything I’m involved in).

          I understand your need to be politically correct about everything, but this behavior needs to be curbed. Back in the 50’s and 60’s and early 70’s even women in Kabul (and elsewhere) wore normal clothes and bikinis on the beach and where allowed schooling and a life. Now they’re wearing tents with eye holes so small they can barely see where they’re going. SO many atricities. Stop defending the horrible behavior of repressed and disgusting men.

  48. Well done for taking the time to spread awareness of the differences between muslim and sikh head gear. Im sikh myself (although i dont wear turban) and I enjoy visiting your website to see what the trouble makers are getting upto on this great website

    The newer generation sikhs (shall i say third generation living in western countries) like to wear smaller “compact” turbans. Although alot of sikhs do cut their hair.

    example of compact turbans worn by sikhs in western countries

    If you are not sure, always check if he is wearing a steel bracelet worn on the right arm (sometimes gold braclet), See picture above.
    All sikhs wear the steel bracelet whether males and females

    OH and shokria (or shukria) means well done in hindi 🙂

    • Are you sure about the bracelet? Is this just a person choice or a requirement? How can you tell the difference between a Sikh woman and a muslim woman, do they still wear a scarf? There is a small woman I see now and then and she says Hi to me, muslim women and men never say hi unless you say it first, my own personal experience. But if I can tell they are muslims I ignore their arse. Peace to all non-muslims who want to know.

      • It is a REQUIREMENT as a SIKH to wear the silver or gold bracelet!! Sikh woman cover their heads different than Muslims do. We have a longer scarf that covers our head, as Muslims only have the hijaab. Sikhs are way different!

        • PS, the average person doesn’t know that and can’t recognize it. That’s why Sikhs keep getting mistaken for Muslims and attacked. You can keep your pride or you can keep your life. Your choice.

        • why do u expect jews to remove their kippah, sikhs to remove turban, german women to remove skirts, when the peoblem is muslim

    • I was born here 52 years ago, my family has been in america at least 100 years. Most days you will find me in a thobe and sandals, and if I am dressed up or it is cold or very sunny you may find me wearing an igal and a shemaugh.

      The US army and many western forces issue shemaugh to troops. They use them the same way “natives” use them. If you go to a sporting goods store you will find many shemaugh available in a variety of patterns, and many hunters and survivalists consider them essential.

      So tell me, how does an “american” dress?

    • FORGET IT, “masteradrian”!!!!! Your anti-theism is just as bad as the Islamic hatred of everybody else – with that attitude, you’ll be an outstanding Commie or Nazi!!!!

      SHAME ON YOU!!!

      DEATH TO ALL totalitarianism: ISLAM, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM!!!!!

      Meanwhile, dear Ms. BNI:

      Thank you so very much for this posting: quite educational and something I most certainly welcome and wish to know about!!! I don’t want to risk wronging any Sikhs or Hindus – or anybody else but Moslems and other totalitarians like that dictator wannabe “masteradrian”!!! [His attitude is a complete TURN-OFF!!!!]

    • There is nothing without the necessity of symbolism. If had been investigated must have realized; I am sorry for objective remarking.

  49. I’m glad you posted this BNI. Too many people just aren’t sure of the difference. I’ve shared this on my FB page to assist others.

  50. Thanks for this. I found it informative. I have been wondering because I noticed what I sorta thought were muslims around me but like Ken & Bruce mention, they seemed different than muslims. Friendly and just something about them in general felt unlike what I feel around muslims. I noticed a bumper sticker not long ago that said Sikh’s Love America. Made me smile. Generally you can tell the difference in just the demeanor but it helps to know for sure. Thanks!

  51. Can always see the difference between Sikh’s and muslims. The one that looks intelligent is a Sikh.

  52. Living in the San Francisco Bay Area I’ve had the oportunity to meet a few Sikh men and more muslims than I would like.
    Besides the headgear the one obvious difference between the two is the general attitude.
    The Sikh’s I’ve met have all been open, outgoing & very friendly. The latest just a couple of weeks ago while waiting for a Bart train.
    with whom I started a conversation about the problems Sikh’s were facing in India with muslim’s. Funny he was like most American’s, unaware that there’s a problem at all.
    The too many muslims I’ve met have been closed off, uptight & more than half reeking of arogance.
    A friend met a Sikh & was invited to their religous services & then to a family’s home for a meal.
    He said all the people were very hospitable & friendly.
    Easy for me to see which one get the crosshairs.

  53. there is one more head cover of Sikhs that you didn’t list. It looks like a “bun” in the front and is for Sikh males who have not gone through the manhood rituals.

        • You happen to be completely wrong
          Only two gurus, the fifth and ninth sacrificed there lives when forced to convert their religions
          all other gurus were not killed
          please do not send things without checking, understand it could be a mistake
          hope this helps

        • stop fibbing only Guru Arjun Dev ji the fifth Guru, was tortured to death. His son Guru Har Gobind ji went to war with the mughals , same Guru Har Rai ji Then the Ninth Guru: Guru Teg Bahadur gave his Head to defend the religious rights of all India’s population (mostly Hindu) against the forcible conversion to islam. His Grand Sons were murdered and yet the tenth Guru : Guru Gobind SIngh ji didn’t let up fighting against them.

        • If sikhs start wearing “I’m not muslim badge” mulsims will target and kill them, liberals will target them and if they react they’d be branded…..intolerant, racist, discriminating and so on. They are not foolish or irrational like muzzies.

      • I don’t want to sound like I’m blaming the victim, but perhaps prominently wearing the Sikh coat of arms (a circle with a vertical line through it, with two sickles/billhooks on either side) on your clothing would help avoid confusion?

        • Or gain understanding through the old fashioned way, earn the knowledge freely given through this authors wisdom.
          Respectfully given wisdom makes it even better.