By BareNakedIslam •
Just the Facts •
July 18, 2014 @ 1:40 pm
Read this carfully , and everybody will see it’s only intend to start WW III
July 18, 2014 @ 1:04 am
Copied from the Telegraph
A senior vice president for Malaysia Airlines said on Thursday that at least 154 Dutch citizens were on board the passenger airliner that crashed in eastern Ukraine.
Huib Gorter told media at a news conference in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, that there were also at least “27 Australian passengers, 23 Malaysian, 11 Indonesian, six from the UK, four from Germany, four from Belgium, three from the Philippines and one Canadian” on board.
He said the nationality of the rest of the victims was still to be identified.
He added that all the crew members were Malaysian.
Add 23 US Passport holders and their are 39 left over. Chinese? Maybe they are afraid to tell China, “Oh by the way, we just lost thirty or so more of your people”.
Lincoln Applegate Hahn
July 17, 2014 @ 11:03 pm
Putin is as treacherous a socialist …. as Obama is a stupid puppet socialist …. both MA planes were Boeings …. as was KAL 007 …. open season on Boeings ? Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad Belly Spy Cams World Tour
July 17, 2014 @ 10:55 pm
I smell mohommedist in this mix-!
July 17, 2014 @ 9:03 pm
Very tragic. Another reason not to fly a Muzbum airline. Very suspicious that its another Maylasian airline in the past 12 mths thats met a suspicious fate. Starting to see a pattern here people? Now makes your wonder what happened to the other one.
July 18, 2014 @ 12:31 am
Nothing suspicious. It was shot down by an SA weapons system. Probably aiming for a Ukrainian troop transport. The missiles software has a default to hit a larger target if it senses two in its path. A 777 trumps a AN-23.
July 17, 2014 @ 7:06 pm
Our local press cites as its best source someone on the ground at the scene who says it was the Ukrainian military that shot this plane down. It was shot down in insurgent-occupied territory, but they say insurgents don’t have the equipment to shoot a plane down from the altitude this one was flying at. Putin denies any involvement, as does the Ukrainian government. Perhaps the flight list of passengers will shed some light on who may have had motive.
July 18, 2014 @ 12:18 am
The insurgents desplayed on Facebook June 30th an SA weapons system captured from a Ukranian base that was over run. An AP reporter saw and photographed an SA system in insurgent hands yesterday. Ukrainian planes have been falling out of the sky for three days straight. Finally, several “leaders” of the “Donatsk Peoples Republik” bragged on Facebook/twittered that the sky was theirs and they had brought down a “bird” at the same time that the airliner crashed. The Facebook messages and tweets were deleted, but not beforee FOX affliate SUN had recorded them. Watch FOX. Their military consultants have no doubt where that missile came from. 154 Dutch citizens and 23 US passport holders are dead.
July 17, 2014 @ 6:19 pm
this tragedy will be blamed on Putin somehow because the apparent missle was made in Russia.
July 17, 2014 @ 6:21 pm
cargo planes had been shot down as well in recent days
July 17, 2014 @ 2:03 pm
Are you thinking, what I have been utterly convinced about since the beginning of the riots? That this is a muslim inspired violent overthrow of a democratically elected government? Well, did you know that the call to protest was started by a muslim?
Enter a lonely, courageous Ukrainian rebel, a leading investigative journalist. A dark-skinned journalist who gets racially profiled by the regime. And a Muslim. And an Afghan. This is Mustafa Nayem, the man who started the revolution. Using social media, he called students and other young people to rally on the main square of Kiev in support of a European choice for Ukraine. That square is called the Maidan, which by the way is an Arab word.
DAVOS/KIEV, January 23 (RIA Novosti) – Ukraine’s Prime Minister Mykola Azarov has blamed deadly clashes between police and protestors on militants who were attempting a coup.
“It’s militants, not opposition, that are acting against us,” he said Thursday. “A real attempt at a state coup is under way.”
Muhajireen Army commander calls for Muslims to wage jihad in the Ukraine
By Bill RoggioMay 16, 2014
The deputy leader of an al Qaeda-allied jihadist group that is led by commanders from the Caucasus and other former Soviet republics has called for Ukrainian Muslims to wage jihad against the Russia government
(The actual agenda here is to engineer a war between Russia and America. This way the muslims get the two strongest powers in the world to wipe each other out while they take over the world. The muslims want a world war, this is according to their satanic pagan death cult beliefs.)
Does the Odessa Massacre not have all the hallmarks of an Islamic jihadist psychopathic assault on innocent people?
http://ersieesist.livejournal.com/813.html Odessa Massacre 2 May 2014
I think that the pro-Russian group, who were using peaceful means to declare their alliegance to Russia, have been hi-jacked by the muslims. There are also muslim Nazis in the Ukraine military. Either of these groups have the psychopathic tendency to murder innocent civilians.
“The rioters don’t want a truce in Ukraine and they don’t want peace in Ukraine, they want all the power. And that is the same goal that the so-called moderate opposition has. In this regard the radicals and the moderate opposition are allies. When the moderate opposition says they don’t have any control over the radicals, it’s a very convenient excuse. In fact they don’t want to exercise any control because the rioters on the streets are working for the same goal as they are in meetings with western governments,” Veronika Krasheninnikova, the head of the Institute of Foreign Policy Research and Initiatives, told RT.
Media in Ukraine have reported the presence of Chechen, Ingush, and Ossetian fighters in the ranks of pro-Russian rebels in Ukraine’s east, where Ukrainian forces have been fighting separatists for weeks.
Earlier, there were reports that among the militants who are fighting in south-east Ukraine along with pro-Russian rebels are Chechen militants.
On June3, Chechnya President Ramzan Kadyrov declared on REN TV he is ready to send 74,000 Chechens to Ukraine “to put things in order.”
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27643518 1 June 2014
“The Chechens don’t wear masks and you see them with their big beards,” Oxana says.
One of her neighbours asked a group out of curiosity – “we are full of curiosity in these parts”, according to Oxana – where they were from and whether they were Chechens.
In broken, heavily accented Russian, they replied: “What Chechen? We are Russia Federation” (I Russian: “Kakoy chechentsy? My russkaya federatsia”).
July 18, 2014 @ 12:45 am
Maidan is an arabic derived Ukrainian word that means square. Consider the English words Sheriff, Admiral, Alcohol and Chemistry; all arabic derived.
July 17, 2014 @ 1:44 pm
It’s the Ukrainian pro-Russia rebels. Perhaps retaliating against Obama’s speech yesterday where he imposed a lot of sanctions against Russia. Obama also pressuring EU to follow-up with same sanctions. It’s not Russia that did it, it’s the Russian rebels.
Once again, the result of stupid Obama’s war against Putin. With Obama, it’s a personal thing. He has no business meddling in Ukraine. Everything Obama touches turns to disaster.
July 18, 2014 @ 12:35 am
Putin is behaving like hitler. Taking bites out of neighboring countries because they have ethnic Russian population.
July 17, 2014 @ 12:57 pm
July 17, 2014 @ 12:46 pm
2nd malaysia aircraft in 2 months ???????????????????
July 17, 2014 @ 8:58 pm
I believe it’s 1 Malaysian, 2 Russian, and 1 Ukrainian aircraft shot down in the region in about 2 months. It’s getting very unsafe even in the air there.
July 17, 2014 @ 9:04 pm
@ Nev – thats exactly what I am thinking.
July 17, 2014 @ 12:43 pm
I bet Barry has been preparing his speech about this crash since yesterday when he issued sanctions against Russia….No one is claiming responsibility, good excuse for Barry to declare war on Russia he is jealous of manly-man Putin.
July 17, 2014 @ 4:09 pm
What happen to: “This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.”
Medvedev responded: “I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir.”
Something major is going on and we’re the last to find out about it.
July 17, 2014 @ 7:20 pm
Apparently it was a SA-11 or SA-20. The “Donatsk Peoples Republik” has a SA-11. Only the Russians have SA-20s. Some idiot from the DPR bragged on russian facebook that they just shot down a AN-23 (soviet era cargo jet) from the “Kiev regime” about the same time the MA went down. When it was apparent that the bird was something bigger, he pulled his post down but not before it was recorded by SUN (the British FOX clone). There is no doubt on FOX that it was either Russia directly or their thug proxies, trying to shoot down a Ukrainian aircraft and hitting something else. Remember KAL-007. 62 Americans including a Congressman died on KAL-007. On this flight there were 23 Americans on the manifest. My thought. That DPR “leader” needs a slow working over followed by being pitched out of a helicopter at 5,000 ft.
July 17, 2014 @ 8:27 pm
Surely you don’t want Obama to declare war on Russia, a nuclear power do you? Of course it wouldn’t surprise me if Obama did something incredibly dangerous.
July 17, 2014 @ 12:25 pm
Why did this Malaysian plane stray over Ukrainian airspace in the first place? If the plane had taken off and went due south from Holland, they would have flown over southern Europe and the Mediterranean Sea and from there they could have turned southeast to fly over the Arabian peninsula and the Indian Ocean to Malaysia. But I suspect there is more to this story than meets the eye.
July 17, 2014 @ 12:54 pm
That was its usual route.
July 17, 2014 @ 8:49 pm
Thank you Bonnie. As you write, it’s the ICAO prescribed route. The International Civil Aviation Organization had recently certified it as safe. But that doesn’t stop rouge parties from targeting airliners.
Sadly, now rouge parties are being armed with sophisticated weapons meant to shoot down high flying fast bombers and recon aircraft.
July 17, 2014 @ 1:28 pm
Stray? You ever hear of air routes Pamela?
July 17, 2014 @ 7:01 pm
The US put a NTAM (Notice to AirMen) 3 months ago not to fly over this area. Until six hours ago Lufthansa, French Air, Turkish Airlines and Virgin thought it was hunky dory.
July 17, 2014 @ 7:43 pm
Yes, it is still open air space even if it is above a conflict zone – no exclusion zone has been declared by either side.
2 weeks ago I flew from Singapore to Paris and return on Air France and both ways we crossed over Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran and Ukaraine.
What was interesting is the the cabin crew had us all close our window shades, even though it was after 2am local and the cabin was already dark, and you could see on the flight status display that we had climbed to almost 40000 feet and increased our speed.
This was over Ukraine and we did that both ways.
In hind sight, I wonder if that was for good reason – a response to an already perceived threat?
RIP all the innocent 295 of MH17.
Russian Bear 1987
July 18, 2014 @ 3:01 pm
No idea, but they should warn not to fly over combat zones.
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