Keep in mind that in Kenya, Christians make up 83% of the population while Muslims are only 11.2%. Kenyan pastors ask for AK-47s to defend themselves against surging Muslim violence.
Charisma News As attacks on Christians mount in Kenya’s coastal region, some evangelical pastors in the Mombasa area may no longer be willing to turn the other cheek. Worried about attacks against their churches and congregations, some pastors are asking for rifles to protect themselves from suspected Islamic extremists.
The violence intensified on Oct. 20 and 21, when two evangelical church pastors were killed inside their churches. Pastor Charles Mathole, 41, was killed Oct. 20 as he prayed inside his Vikwatani Redeemed Gospel Church. The following day, East African Pentecostal Church pastor Ibrahim Kithaka was found dead in Kilifi, about 35 miles north of Mombasa.
Christian leaders blame the attacks on increased radicalization of Muslim youth. The attacks have occurred amid protests by Muslims that they were being targeted in Nairobi’s war against terrorism.
“Our many churches are not under any protection. They do not have walls or gates. The government should issue AK-47 rifles to every church so that we can stop them from being burnt, our property from being looted and our pastors and Christians from being killed,” said Lambert Mbela, a pastor at Mathole’s church, during his funeral.
Three weeks before the latest murders, Muslim youth torched a Salvation Army church in the Majengo area in Mombasa to protest the killing of the popular Sheikh Ibrahim “Rogo” Omar and three others by unknown gunmen on Oct.4. The same church was torched last year after the murder of another prominent Muslim cleric, Sheikh Aboud Rogo Mohammed.
Some church officials say the request for arms reflects a growing frustration with the rising insecurity, but others say the move contradicts traditional biblical teachings on nonviolence, or could put churches and congregations at more risk.
“I don’t think arming Kenyan (clerics) will ensure security,” said the Rev. Peter Karanja, the general secretary of the National Council of Churches of Kenya, at a news conference in Limuru, near Nairobi, on Wednesday (Oct. 30). “However, the government should see this as writing on the wall. Kenyans are getting tired of the continuing insecurity.”
Karanja challenged the government to marshal enough personnel and resources to improve security in churches, offices and homes without having to arm clergy. “What we do not agree with is that every pastor should be armed to ensure they are safe,” he said.
Interfaith initiatives in the coastal region have allowed different faiths to live in relative calm, but the attacks are threatening decades of peaceful coexistence, according to the Rev. Wilybard Lagho, vicar general of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Mombasa.
“I think we need to restrengthen interreligious dialogue. The problem is in the minds, and we need to win them back,” said Lagho, calling the request for guns a shallow solution to a complex problem.
Some Muslim leaders, meanwhile, have backed the pastors’ call for arms but said there should be a thorough vetting of who gets a gun.
“It is a good idea, but not all clerics should get the guns. Some are rogue clerics and may pose more danger to other religious leaders,” said Sheikh Juma Ngao, chairman of the Kenya Muslim National Advisory Council.
STELIOS says
Fight Fire with Fire or we all are lost and I don’t intend to lose.
Pavelina says
Christians must not voluntarily give up their lives to evildoers, just as they must not commit suicide. We are to hold onto our God-given lives until natural death.
dajjal says
Predators seek to minimize risk to themselves. They prey first upon the defenseless who are unable or unwilling to defend themselves and retaliate effectively.
Turning the other cheek is a cultural thing. The right hand is reserved for eating, the left hand is reserved for ass wiping. Slapping an unbeliever is done with the left hand, if the victim turns the other cheek and you slap it with the right hand, you defile yourself by touching a najis thing with your right hand.
There will be neither peace nor security until the infestation of Islam is eliminated entirely on a global scale.
Saxon says
And if the Kenyan Christians fight back, no doubt there will be an out cry the world over about the poor persecuted Muslims.
I try not to hate anyone, but it’s bloody friggen hard not to hate these savages.
cat says
When muslim savages make up more than 10% of the population, they demand by force their supremist atrocities. Defend yourselves. The muslims of the 7th century mentality only see force as the only thing they respect. Negotiations and inter faith meetings shout d’himmi, infidel status and weakness that islam is directed to eliminate.
Linda Rivera says
‘others say the move contradicts traditional biblical teachings on nonviolence’
What an insane thing to say! Where does it say in the Bible you are to allow
barbaric killers to murder you, your family, your relatives, your friends, your church and your country?
The Jewish Scriptures, Old Testament is the Eternal Word of God and God made
it clear that men are to do battle against their enemies. Especially, when they
come to kill you!
AK-47s immediately for the Christians!
enceladus says
It’s the only thing they can do (and the *right* thing).
AmricanMe says
Imam obamas father was a Muslim Kenyan and imam obamas stooge Biden went I Kenya to campaign for obamas malm cousin as prime minister who campaigned on a sharia implementation platform in this majority Christian country. If None dare try to help the Christians suffering under o’s cousins sharia terror o will take em down one way or another!
BareNakedIslam says
AM, I have that Biden story in the link.
Sandra says
http://tomohalloran.com/2013/06/10/watch-must-see-for-all-americans-ann-barnhardt-islamic-sexuality-a-survey-of-evil/ 4 PART VIDEO – ISLAMIST SEXUAL EVIL.
hardiharhar says
This indicates that once they represent over five to eight percent of the country they feel emboldened to get real violent. If liberal governments in the free world don’t curb immigration and keep their numbers below two percent, the people better not just arm themselves but start using the arms offensively rather than wait to use them defensively.
BareNakedIslam says
hhh, people think it doesn’t get really bad until they are at 30 – 40%. WRONG!
Arjay says
Bonnie, I can’t agree with you more about the comment people being wrong that muslims will only be a problem when they reach 30-40% of the population. Your site as well as Atlas Shrugs, Jihad Watch, Religion of Peace and many other sites have shown consistently that muslims don’t have to be such a big chunk of the population to be destructive.
The number of 10% is used a lot as being when the muz population is noticeable enough, entrenched enough and funneled into various aspects of society (law enforcement, law firms, administrative posts, academia, etc) enough to start their city or national take overs.
Whether it is an entire nation being taken over (Lebanon), a region (like certain islands in the Philippines or southern Thailand), a city (Malmo, Sweden) or just neighborhoods (too numerous to list)… the decay and downward spiral starts with a small percentage- and now those areas are all muslim, predominately muz or muz have such control that they “rule” even if they are still technically the “minority” population.
However, I am going to mention a very, very disturbing trend we have seen since 9/11 when the attempt for a new world wide 21st century caliphate got the go ahead and greenlight, yes- I think that was the watershed moment in my opinion when the muz jumped into the spotlight of every nation and region 24/7.
We saw in various parts of Africa recently that muz don’t have to be of a certain percentage of the population as “residents” or “refugees” or “citizens” to cause chaos. Why? Because when given the ability the muz will send in large groups of terrorists or muz militias or armies from outside a nations borders to wreak havoc usually on an unarmed and unprepared population.
In Scotland last month a health program for immunizations was cancelled for the ENTIRE area because muz protested the practice. This was not a situation where the muz could “opt out” of the program as a matter of individual freedom, conscience or parental rights being invoked… (I’m sure any Scottish nurses would be happy not to have to vaccinate some screaming inbred muz brat whose body odor smelly parents sat nearby staring at her)…
This was that NO SCOTTISH CHILDEN would get the vaccination. Whether Presbyterian, Church of Scotland, Methodist, atheist, Catholic, Hindu, Sikh or Jewish adherent.
Drum roll… according to SUN NEWS whose report about this I watched… they said the muz population in this part of Scotland WAS ONLY 1% AND IN NO WAY EXCEEDING 2%. Also, they have a disproportionate amount of muz on govt freebies and entitlements… so these muz in Scotland don’t pay taxes. Yet the could de-rail a much needed health program FOR ALL and put ALL CHILDREN AT RISK for spreading disease.
So 1% is a llloooonnngggg way to a 10, 30 or 40% demographic.
The muz are “making their move” on other fronts WHERE THEY DON’T HAVE TO BE 5 OR 10 OR 20 percentage to cause problems. How? By all the lawsuits filed, getting into key academic or government positions where policy is made, by getting city or town officials to be their dhimmis, by getting at least one or two muz to be cops in their area…
Heck, big corporations are falling on their knees to muz… NOT because the oil rich Qatar or Saudi muz bought up shares of stock or are in CEO or Junior VP positions… NOT because a chunk of “middle management” decided to convert to allah-la-a-ding-dong… NOT because half of their customers are muz….
In so many cases it is some pathetic one time customer who gets “offended” (ie they create a false problem or set up a scenario for them to cry victim) or it is an employee… and not a supervisor or VP, but some week-end part-timer who after getting hired knowing the rules will then complain bias and have the company executives groveling at their stinky muz feet.
These muz are 10% or 30% OF NOTHING. They are not 40% of stockholders, NOT 10% of management, NOT 5% of customers… they are many times single insignificant one shot customers or a “few hours a week” part-timers who CHANGE entire ways companies do business.
The muz are flexing their muscles now and learning they can cause chaos at 1% or less.
From personal experience I can attest to this. I have mentioned on previous posts that I had the unfortunate experience of dealing with muz in my life… EVEN when the muz population in a place or region didn’t even “register” on anyone’s scale or radar. Numbers so small that people didn’t even know muz were there. In other words… not even a 1% mark. Yet, the damage done was unbelievable… and in the fallout of problems, no one even “clocked back then” that is was muzlim inspiration for the problems. The people were classified in any other way imaginable than as a muz…. sort of like the way Europe will use “code names” such as “Asian” or “Youth” or “Immigrant” or “Refugee” to hide the muz identity.
Warning world… the muz don’t have to be at even 5 or 10 percent in your community or workplace to cause total chaos and destruction.
Uncle Vladdi says
LOL Waiting for Obama to start his shrill hissy-fit screaming over these “racists!”
perceptor1 says
Churches already have security guards in Islamic areas and women in many churches are asked not to bring a bag or purse. Frisking is done at the door.
Security is a job for professionals, not amateurs who may pose more of a risk to themselves or the people they want to defend.
Turning the other cheek is not about being a Pollyanna. Law enforcement, lawyers, politicians and church administrators have to hold meetings and come up with a multi-pronged approach to protecting Christians. All governments have to realize that Islam by its nature calls for terrorism against disbelievers.
Doyle Pritchard says
MANY in the USA Christian Community are looking the other way on the continued slaughter of Christians in the Mid East and Northern Africa! Arm them, pretty much end of Story!
Marilyn Z says
Kenya sees what is happening. I feel for these poor people…they are definitely outgunned….guess BO is very proud that his fellow countrymen and women are being slaughtered by his slimy cultists muslim brotherhood.
Wonder if he would consider sending US troops in to defend these poor souls and their churches from his brotherhood?
BareNakedIslam says
MZ, if you read the link at the bottom, you would never ask that question.
tommy mc donnell says
none one civil rights leader in america will say a word about this slaughter.
yohannbiimu says
Of course not. They are all either closet-Muslims, dyed-in-the-wool Muslims, or dhimmies. Also, if the Christians find themselves in a position where they’ve beaten-off these Muslim savages, I will not be surprised if Obama funnels billions of dollars in aid to them. He probably wants to beat Iran, North Korea, and China as the biggest subsidizer of terrorism in the world.